Audio GD C2C
Mar 25, 2009 at 5:10 AM Post #61 of 657
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Originally Posted by insyte /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Well one of my upgrade plans would probably include an Audio GD product, so it would be nice if Audio GD can come up with an amp that is Beta22 level. I also wish Kingwa would advertise the Audio GD CD transport
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I would love to get one and someday have a complete balanced CAST system
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After I received my C2C, I asked Kingwa if it would work balanced. He said he'd have to put 2 C2Cs in a big box with a very high quality volume control. Now, we know now what happens when we ask Kingwa something... some time later I receive an email saying he's already designed a balanced amp, based around the design of one of his integrated amps. It's now got to the point that every time I ask him about something, someone else already has and he's already designed it and has a projected completion date, more or less.

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Originally Posted by theBigD /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Does the C2C use the Earth, Moon, Sun modules? I am currently listening to the Compass and am more impressed with the amp than the DAC so far so thinking the C2C might be even better amp wise. What do you think?


No, it doesn't use modules. The circuit used is a variation of the Earth though, according to Kingwa.

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Originally Posted by santacore /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Wow, 4 pages and I just noticed this thread.

I recently purchased a C-2C and have been enjoying it for the last 3 weeks. I have about 100 hours on the unit and Kingwa claims to have put about 100 hours on it before shipping it to me. The unit doesn't seem to have changed too much in the time I've had it.

Most of my listening has been with Denon D7000's or AKG 701's. Both phones play nice with the amp and sound great in their own ways. I own a pair of HD650's but I haven't really given them much play yet.

Overall the amp sounds fantastic. There are no glaring faults that I can hear. It's very musical, has great prat, and does a good job with soundstaging. It's by far the best sounding SS amp that I've heard near this price range. When I'm using the amp, I feel no need to switch back to my Singlepower MPX3 or my Decware CSP-2, both of which are also excellent. I'm not saying it bests either amp, I'm just saying I enjoy it so much that I don't think about the other amps sitting next to it.

Last thing-I want to give props to Kingwa and Cherry at Audio-Gd. There communication throughout the process was really excellent. My emails almost always got answered within hours of sending them. In my opinion that says a lot about there customer service. Basically I wouldn't hesitate to recommend buying from them in the future. In fact, I'm so impressed with the headphone amp that I'm seriously considering picking up one of their dacs and possibly an integrated amp. Good stuff!!



Wow, if it's distracted you from those amps, then that's exceptionally good going. How do you feel it sounds different compared to the MPX3 and CSP-2? What do each do better?
 
Mar 25, 2009 at 1:53 PM Post #62 of 657
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Wow, if it's distracted you from those amps, then that's exceptionally good going. How do you feel it sounds different compared to the MPX3 and CSP-2? What do each do better?


It's a little hard to say since I've only had the C-2C 3 weeks and the CSP-2 about 1 week. If I had to put my finger on it, I would probably say the tone and sense of space. I find tube gear just gives a bit more of that 3-D imaging. I was also thinking last night that strings and wood instruments could have a bit more woodyness to them. Then again, maybe it's my headphones....

The bottom line is I find myself lost in the music every time I use the C-2C. In my opinion that's the highest compliment I can give it.
 
Mar 25, 2009 at 6:56 PM Post #63 of 657
Currawong I just sent The Pacific Valve & Electric Company an email asking if their C2C's are the new or old version. Whenever my citypulse sells I'm probably going to order one, if they are the new version, to compare with the shanling ph100. I'll just have the c2c driving one channel of the k1000 and a ph100 driving the other so I can hear both at the same time.

Btw the new version is supposed to be tuned for a more balanced/neutral sound right? Or is that going to be something else?

Edit: Got a response saying they are the new version already.
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I would still like to know if the new version is more balanced than the initial ones though if anyone has that information.
 
Mar 26, 2009 at 5:42 AM Post #64 of 657
So what are the advantages of the C2C over the Compass? I am finding the Compass better than my ef1 amp wise but not so sure I want the DAC. Am I correct in believing the C2C will have better detail than the compass with better bass extension and wider soundstage?
 
Mar 26, 2009 at 2:10 PM Post #65 of 657
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Originally Posted by Currawong /img/forum/go_quote.gif
After I received my C2C, I asked Kingwa if it would work balanced. He said he'd have to put 2 C2Cs in a big box with a very high quality volume control. Now, we know now what happens when we ask Kingwa something... some time later I receive an email saying he's already designed a balanced amp, based around the design of one of his integrated amps. It's now got to the point that every time I ask him about something, someone else already has and he's already designed it and has a projected completion date, more or less.


Oh my. Kingwa is really fast.

Ref 1 + balanced C2C (or he could name it as C4C) = my goal for next year
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Originally Posted by santacore /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The bottom line is I find myself lost in the music every time I use the C-2C. In my opinion that's the highest compliment I can give it.


Hi, I enjoyed reading your impressions. Im glad the C-2C can distract you from your other amps. Good sign for the C-2C
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Since Ive been staying at home, I get to enjoy the C-2C around 6 to 8 hours a day the past few days
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Mar 26, 2009 at 3:51 PM Post #66 of 657
I received my review sample of the C-2C. Early impression is favorable. It's very smooth for a SS amp to be sure. More in a week or so - need some more break in, etc.
 
Mar 26, 2009 at 6:51 PM Post #68 of 657
I will, but sadly, it will have to be from memory only, since as you may know my Caliente was stolen by a former head-fier...
 
Mar 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM Post #69 of 657
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I will, but sadly, it will have to be from memory only, since as you may know my Caliente was stolen by a former head-fier...


Stolen?
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That stinks! I am new here, but did you let someone borrow the Caliente and not return it?
 
Mar 26, 2009 at 7:31 PM Post #70 of 657
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Originally Posted by Dat_Dude /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Stolen?
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That stinks! I am new here, but did you let someone borrow the Caliente and not return it?



Yea, it's old news. Hopefully we don't have to waste our time talking about such trash. Let's just hope he/she never shows up again.

On a different note, I'm looking forward to hearing Skylab's thoughts on the C-2C.
 
Mar 26, 2009 at 7:41 PM Post #71 of 657
She's here!

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Two days from China to San Diego, gotta love it.

First impressions:

* Very Powerful - Drives the 701s with ease. More than sufficient volume just past 9 o'clock. Will put it head to head with my Headroom balanced desktop after a few weeks.

* As others have said, it's nice and smooth. But oh yes, it needs burn in.

* Solid build quality. Good clicks, nothing's wobbly, pot turns with just enough resistance.

* Will move over to my Musical Fidelity V-DAC later tonight. The sense of space and richness with that thing just blows away the DR.DAC, but that's another thread. Right now looking seriously at the PS Audio DLIII for its balanced outputs.

* And one can't go without praising Kingwa and Cherry. They responded to all my questions promptly and with courtesy.

So far loving it!
 
Mar 26, 2009 at 7:48 PM Post #72 of 657
Now all these talks about the C2C is getting me really excited. I see that coming from Compass is going to be difficult because the amp section in the Compass is already very remarkable. So far I have considered the the EF1 and the Caliente but I guess I have to move a spot for the C2C as well now.
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Mar 26, 2009 at 9:21 PM Post #73 of 657
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She's here!

Two days from China to San Diego, gotta love it.

First impressions:

* Very Powerful - Drives the 701s with ease. More than sufficient volume just past 9 o'clock. Will put it head to head with my Headroom balanced desktop after a few weeks.

* As others have said, it's nice and smooth. But oh yes, it needs burn in.

* Solid build quality. Good clicks, nothing's wobbly, pot turns with just enough resistance.

* Will move over to my Musical Fidelity V-DAC later tonight. The sense of space and richness with that thing just blows away the DR.DAC, but that's another thread. Right now looking seriously at the PS Audio DLIII for its balanced outputs.

* And one can't go without praising Kingwa and Cherry. They responded to all my questions promptly and with courtesy.

So far loving it!



Congrats
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Yup it has more than enough juice to drive the K701
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Can't wait for your impressions on how it pairs with the MF V-DAC
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Kingwa and Cherry deserve praise as they are very consistent so far with their customer service
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Originally Posted by K3cT /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Now all these talks about the C2C is getting me really excited. I see that coming from Compass is going to be difficult because the amp section in the Compass is already very remarkable. So far I have considered the the EF1 and the Caliente but I guess I have to move a spot for the C2C as well now.
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From the reviews, the amp in the compass is already very good. So it was also my dilemma on which one to get first (im contemplating on getting a compass for a dorm setup if my budget permits me). At the time I ordered a C-2C only Curra had both and I asked his opinion (since I trust his ears) if the C-2C was a step up from the Compass amp. Long story short I went for the C-2C and got a separate preowned DAC locally
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Mar 26, 2009 at 9:36 PM Post #74 of 657
I couldn't wait for tonight.

The DR.DAC2 is a very cool unit - great sound, tons of inputs, 96/24 processing, strong volume output, and small. Perfect for my travels.

But the V-DAC, she's another thing altogether...

Both units have great clarity, but the thing that sets the V-DAC apart is that it just explodes the soundstage wide open.

And she plays with the C2C so nicely... rich, liquid, smooth, and very open. This is an awesome combo with the 701s.

Now I wish I didn't sell my Channel Islands VDA-2!
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Ah well, sets me up to think about Kingwa's Ref1.
 
Mar 26, 2009 at 9:54 PM Post #75 of 657
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Originally Posted by deadie /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I couldn't wait for tonight.

The DR.DAC2 is a very cool unit - great sound, tons of inputs, 96/24 processing, strong volume output, and small. Perfect for my travels.

But the V-DAC, she's another thing altogether...

Both units have great clarity, but the thing that sets the V-DAC apart is that it just explodes the soundstage wide open.

And she plays with the C2C so nicely... rich, liquid, smooth, and very open. This is an awesome combo with the 701s.

Now I wish I didn't sell my Channel Islands VDA-2!
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Ah well, sets me up to think about Kingwa's Ref1.



Thanks for the impressions. Ah the Ref 1, I want it too
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