New Portable Amp/Dac: iBasso D1 **with updates on the first page**
Sep 20, 2007 at 1:21 PM Post #1,261 of 2,626
On the optical cables my measurements are just the cable but not the connector ends, which of course also add length. With the shortest I mention there is just enough length for a U and about 2cm from tip to tip on the U. this would allow for a iRiver or like device sitting on the D1. If you get it in toslink to toslink and get two of the right angle adapters, which work very well, you can have a short U not projecting out but lying along side of the ends of the D1 and iRiver. Or you could also get a mini to toslink (I got both) in the shorter length and have the U extending on out from the back of the units. I wish now I had gotten a tos to tos and ppurchased two 90 degree adapters. I also go the longer length in both toslink and mini to allow for a little more separation, though not much, or a different component with a toslink or mini out to the mini in of the D1. There, how is that. :^)

The shortest length, end to end as specified by Sys. Concept is 9.5cm and the longer one I got is 13.5 from one end to the other end of the entire optical cable including ends.
 
Sep 20, 2007 at 2:46 PM Post #1,263 of 2,626
The optical is 1 meter and the coax is 1.5 I think.
I've found a serious problem after connecting the D1 to the USB. I've suddenly heard a decrease in the right side by about 30%. That happend after I've increased the volume to the 2 o'clock position. I tried everything but I was sure it's the DAC.
Post factum it has nothing to do with the USB. I've tried plug in the optical in with the sound card, but just as I've pulled the cup from the D1's optical it came back again !(the full sound)
So basically some connection inside maybe messed up .
Anybody else had this fault ?
 
Sep 20, 2007 at 3:52 PM Post #1,264 of 2,626
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Originally Posted by MoAv /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The optical is 1 meter and the coax is 1.5 I think.
I've found a serious problem after connecting the D1 to the USB. I've suddenly heard a decrease in the right side by about 30%. That happend after I've increased the volume to the 2 o'clock position. I tried everything but I was sure it's the DAC.
Post factum it has nothing to do with the USB. I've tried plug in the optical in with the sound card, but just as I've pulled the cup from the D1's optical it came back again !(the full sound)
So basically some connection inside maybe messed up .
Anybody else had this fault ?



Great!! long enough from my PC to it
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Sep 20, 2007 at 5:06 PM Post #1,265 of 2,626
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Originally Posted by MoAv /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The optical is 1 meter and the coax is 1.5 I think.
I've found a serious problem after connecting the D1 to the USB. I've suddenly heard a decrease in the right side by about 30%. That happend after I've increased the volume to the 2 o'clock position. I tried everything but I was sure it's the DAC.
Post factum it has nothing to do with the USB. I've tried plug in the optical in with the sound card, but just as I've pulled the cup from the D1's optical it came back again !(the full sound)
So basically some connection inside maybe messed up .
Anybody else had this fault ?



In the slip of paper that counts as the manual it mentions an internal chip which detects the connection type, so I guess switching connections whilst the amp is connected can be an issue. If I recall correctly you may need to do a power cycle to pickup a different connection type.

If someone has the manual to hand perhaps they can comment - I'm at work so cannot access mine at the moment.
 
Sep 20, 2007 at 5:16 PM Post #1,266 of 2,626
I have found that for some connection you need to power off the D1 and for some you don't. I just power it off and then back on when I make a new connection.
 
Sep 20, 2007 at 5:28 PM Post #1,267 of 2,626
OK but I didn't plug anything to the DAC when it happened, I just unplugged the tiny cup on the optical in. The one that prevent dust to go in, and because of the snap some connection inside got loose (I recon) And sometimes vibration like tapping on my desk when the DAC is on it will set the volume straight.
So even when I powercycle the DAC it still keep the 30% lower volume on the right side till I touch the optical plug (the female on the device) or bang it a little (which pains me to do :..( )
Clearly something is wrong and I've notified iBasso and waiting for reply.
 
Sep 20, 2007 at 5:36 PM Post #1,268 of 2,626
Yes, it sounds like something is wrong. I haven't read of this problem and have none with my unit. They do seem to have very good customer service and try hard to please, which is nice compared to many companies that are a pain to get a hold of.
 
Sep 20, 2007 at 6:43 PM Post #1,269 of 2,626
MoAv....
There are 2 simple things you might try, just in hopes that you can get it working...First, blow several puffs of air into the optical input, in case there is a bit of foreign material interrupting the light beam. Second, remove the 4 front panel hex screws and the one Phillips screw from the back, then slide the circuit board out from the front about half way. The rearmost IC, sitting on a pedestal by itself is an AD8616, which is the DAC opamp. Try lifting it slightly and reseating to ensure you don't have a poor socket connection, as both L & R channels pass thru that opamp.
 
Sep 20, 2007 at 7:36 PM Post #1,271 of 2,626
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Originally Posted by souperman /img/forum/go_quote.gif
If I run the D1 through optical through the TBAAM would it basically be the same as running it through USB D1 because the TBAAM is also run through USB? Correct me if I'm making a major error. Just trying to learn.


Yes, but one USB to SPDIF converter chip might sound better than the other...
 
Sep 20, 2007 at 7:54 PM Post #1,272 of 2,626
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Originally Posted by koto-in /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Yes, but one USB to SPDIF converter chip might sound better than the other...


Could you explain? The D1 plugging in through USB isn't SPDIF right? The TBAAM is a pretty cheap thing though. It probably wouldn't be good to also run it through the TBAAM and THEN through spdif. Isn't it the less amount things in the pathway the better it is?
 
Sep 20, 2007 at 8:00 PM Post #1,273 of 2,626
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Originally Posted by HiFlight /img/forum/go_quote.gif
MoAv....
There are 2 simple things you might try, just in hopes that you can get it working...First, blow several puffs of air into the optical input, in case there is a bit of foreign material interrupting the light beam. Second, remove the 4 front panel hex screws and the one Phillips screw from the back, then slide the circuit board out from the front about half way. The rearmost IC, sitting on a pedestal by itself is an AD8616, which is the DAC opamp. Try lifting it slightly and reseating to ensure you don't have a poor socket connection, as both L & R channels pass thru that opamp.



Thanks I'll give it a go this weekend, I'll notify if there're any changes. Which Torx screwdriver should I use ?
 
Sep 20, 2007 at 8:26 PM Post #1,274 of 2,626
It is not a torx, but a small hex. It is probably metric, but a 5/64" hex fits just fine.
 
Sep 20, 2007 at 8:28 PM Post #1,275 of 2,626
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Originally Posted by souperman /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Could you explain? The D1 plugging in through USB isn't SPDIF right? The TBAAM is a pretty cheap thing though. It probably wouldn't be good to also run it through the TBAAM and THEN through spdif. Isn't it the less amount things in the pathway the better it is?


The D1 uses a PCM2906 to convert USB to S/PDIF before it reaches the DAC. I don't know what chip the TBAAM uses - maybe it's the same one. Try out your options and see what sounds best to you.
 

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