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That's unfair. There are pricks here, but all of the sales forums testify to the strength of the community. Good deals to be had on all sides, and it fosters a feeling of goodwill among the sellers and buyers. Rarely does anyone try to rip someone else off in the sale forums, especially where headphones are concerned.

This particular forum, now, has its fair share of vultures waiting to pick off deals like roadkill, but it's by no means the majority.

cant the original buyer complain?

i'm not too familiar with ebay, but i found this section in their rules:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...rformance.html

it says the seller HAS to sell the item.

will he just get negative feedback or will he get additional sanctions?

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all he will get is a negative feed back. and a warning. if it works like nonpaying bidder then 3 strikes and your out.

If the winner of the original auction is reading this, s/he should read this http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...rformance.html, gather evidence, and possibly pursue this in a court of law. After all, this is what small claims court is for.

Edit: whoops, that was coincidental .

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Tell me about it... I live here... and my tiny little jr. one bedroom costs me $805 a month, and $950 for new people moving in... and that's cheap compared to some one bedroom apartments around here, going for as much as $1300 - $1500 in this area, and all the way up to $5000 a month and more for one bedrooms in the downtown area or Beverly Hills area...or try a 2 bedroom condo in Malibu, right on the beach, old homes, maybe 1100 sq. ft at most, for between $2 to $3 million.

It's absolutely absurd.... a travesty.. I'll never be able to buy a house here unless some stroke of luck comes my way or miracle happens.

An "average" nothing special 1600 sq. ft. 3 bedroom house in the San Fernando Valley averages about $600,000 --- but prices are dropping a little bit.. a few months ago that was $650,000. And a 3 bedroom townhouse in Panorama City, which is a total ghetto area with lots of gang violence, cost $379,000. I know this because I just designed a flier for a real estate agent for it. I do work for lots of people in real estate. Hell, I should be in real estate, making the real money.

I don't know how some of you are able to afford the equipment that you possess, and are able to keep adding more and more to your collection. I mean, when is enough enough? A hobby is great of course, but why would someone need 20 or 30 pairs of headphones? Someone with enough money to afford that many can afford a house thats able to be soundproofed and buy an amazing pair of $15,000 or higher speakers with the precision amplification to match.

I love my IEMs, don't get me wrong, but I only have 4 pair. A pair of iPod in-ear headphones that suck that I dont use, a pair of Shure e2c that aren't that great that I don't use... A pair of Super.Fi 5 pro that I love, and a pair of Triple.Fi on the way, and one day I may buy a set of customs and a pocket amp for my portable rig. But don't we usually get better headphones to replace the older ones, or do you just like the different sounds for different occasions? No headphone, I don't care if it's the world's best, can ever reproduce a soundstage like a professional high-end loudspeaker in a proper acoustically equipped environment. -- So when I get my triple.fi, I probably won't use my Super.fi 5 pro anymore, and would most likely be willing to part with it, as I would with my e2c or my iPod in-ears. If I find a headphone that does everything I want it to, that's the only one I want to use. So I understand having a high-end portable rig for on the go, but I don't understand as much the longing for such high end headphone equipment at home. Sure, it's more intimate and private, but it will never sound like a killer set-up that you could afford with the money spent on all those headphones and headphone amps. And it's certainly not as comfortable to recline back on your couch or recliner with a pair of giant cans on your ears as it is to listen to an amazing pair of loudspeakers.... and again, for the times you want that private and intimate setting and don't want to disturb anyone, use your headphones --- but WHY SO MANY???
I'm just trying to understand this community because I am relatively new here, and I really want to understand the logic behind it. I know like any hobby, it can be expensive. I was into telescopes for awhile, and lenses sure are pricey. But where's the cut off point? It has to happen some time. Why isn't "superb" one day "just good-enough" the next? Shed some light on this for me, someone, please... I know a lot of people wonder the same thing... I recently read one person on Head-Fi who said he is done with this hobby. There is only so much time he can spend on it... and for others, only so much money, and for others, it's a never-ending cycle that leads into greed [like any addiction] where you just want more and better and more and better.
So please, no one take offense. I just want to know, and to learn more about what goes into your decision process when you continue to purchase more and more and more equipment and it's never enough...

Thank you.

I hope the poor buyer is reading all these and take the appropriate actions
And 'J', you'd better hope that the buyer ain't anywhere living close to where you are, because I'd bet that your ass is on the line now

And if the seller really put the reason for relisting as a reconsideration of actual worth, then I guess its fair for the buyer to make a complaint to ebay over this. That said, maybe that 'someone' who alerted the seller (send ebay the link to the post earlier ) should buy the item at 2.5K, since that message seems to have broken the rules in auctions.

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Yes, it is already disallowed to link to ebay auctions in the 'For Sale' forum. A universal policy would prevent both situations like this and when prices get inflated due to too much competition.

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It was a totally bad decision on both parties parts [the other one being Jeff.h, not the buyer]. The seller, didn't he have like 380 something sales? This is totally going to screw up his status as a powerseller. Is it really worth the $2,000 or so over that, when your annual supplemental or entire income is based on your eBay sales? This one negative feedback will be a really strong one, and when people read it, they will be very hesitant about doing business with the seller. I bet he's reading this thread as I am typing this post.

Man, this is just ******** up, the original buyer had one hell of a deal. Now Jeff.h had to go and screw it up by saying something to the seller he thought was funny. It's not so funny now .

i sense one of those watershed thread moments that usually result in some kinda "forum memory." however this plays out, this will be one of the more enduring memories from 2006 here.

Nice going dick.

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Jahn,

You're a perfect example of my post #95. Could you please read it and explain to me your reasoning? After looking at your equipment list, you are a good candidate to explain this to me [even if it's not thread related. but at this point, we all know Jeff.h is a screw-up, so saying it more isn't going to change that].

Thank you in advance.

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We're all collectively getting screwed over because of the insane competetion and value inflation of OOP (out of production) headphones. The pursuit of better sounding headphones is quickly becoming a hobby for the very rich. And if you haven't noticed, nearly all of the truly high-end headphones are discontinued.

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I didn't mean that about everyone on head-fi. But I disagree with you about the FS forum, there was plenty of wallet-raping going on when people decided to resell their HF-1's, for example.

I just died.. What? How is this possible?

Oh whoops, i just read the rest of the thread.. Sorry mate, and jeff what the hell is your problem?

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so why do you hang around here then?