weird XCD-88 modding experience
Nov 10, 2005 at 3:03 AM Post #16 of 70
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Originally Posted by drarthurwells
What dynamic headphone for under $2000 is better than the SA5000?

Who doesn't like the Bada PH12 - that have heard it? No one. I have been trying to get people to come to Gainesville or Apopka, Florida to audition it with the right tubes and the proper associated equipment - no one is near me I suppose because none have emailed me.

The HD650 has a muddled and congested midrange in complex passages compared to the SA 5000, and has unnatural coloration relative the the SA5000 - both were used with the following headphone amps I have recently owned: Lehmann Black Cube linear, Ming Da (Meixing) MC 66AE, David Hafler 110 preamp and headphone amp, and the Bada PH12.

What CDP for $3000 or less beats the E5?



Yeah seriously, I support you 100% man. I'm such a retard for buying the L3000s and the DHA3000, I could have saved $3000 and bought the best setup in the world.
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I guess I'll have to live with it, sadly.
 
Nov 10, 2005 at 3:03 AM Post #17 of 70
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Originally Posted by drarthurwells
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Instead, name me a system of source, headphone and headphone amp that each of you like best.



Y'see, this is you asking for people's opinions. That's fine, opinions are good. What's not good is you running around all over the place pushing your opinions into people's faces like they were God-given truth. There's a big difference there - nobody has any problem with you being satisfied with your equipment, in fact that's great - but it'd be nice if you admitted once in a while that there might be other viewpoints that don't exactly match up to yours. See what I'm getting at?
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Nov 10, 2005 at 3:06 AM Post #18 of 70
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Originally Posted by Kameleon
Y'see, this is you asking for people's opinions. That's fine, opinions are good. What's not good is you running around all over the place pushing your opinions into people's faces like they were God-given truth. There's a big difference there - nobody has any problem with you being satisfied with your equipment, in fact that's great - but it'd be nice if you admitted once in a while that there might be other viewpoints that don't exactly match up to yours. See what I'm getting at?
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Bravo, Bravo
 
Nov 10, 2005 at 3:08 AM Post #19 of 70
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Originally Posted by tkam
You seem to be completely missing the point here. You really like your system and that's great but that doesn't me any let alone all of us will agree with you. You think the SA5K are the most neutral headphones around thats fine that's your opinion. You get very agressive when anyone posts anything negative about them and that is the problem. IMO the SA5K are treble heavy, bright and sterile sounding headphones.


Solid state amps do make the SA 5000 sound "treble heavy, bright and sterile sounding" because the SA5000 accurately mirrors rthe chatracteristics of the SS amp. Because of this, a headphone with coloration, like the Grados, Audio Technicas, or the Sennheisers, may be better with many SS amps than the SA 5000.
 
Nov 10, 2005 at 3:09 AM Post #20 of 70
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Originally Posted by drarthurwells
Who doesn't like the Bada PH12 - that have heard it? No one. I have been trying to get people to come to Gainesville or Apopka, Florida to audition it with the right tubes and the proper associated equipment - no one is near me I suppose because none have emailed me.


howabout coming to the Tampa meet next weekend? We're friendly folks and we'll be glad to hear your gear and share ours with you. Florida Head-fi is calling you dear DR.
 
Nov 10, 2005 at 3:12 AM Post #21 of 70
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Originally Posted by drarthurwells
Solid state amps do make the SA 5000 sound "treble heavy, bright and sterile sounding" because the SA5000 accurately mirrors rthe chatracteristics of the SS amp. Because of this, a headphone with coloration, like the Grados, Audio Technicas, or the Sennheisers, may be better with many SS amps than the SA 5000.


Wrong, wrong, wrong I've heard the SA5K with a wide range of amps both tube and ss even hybrids like the Melos and they still sound treble heavy, bright and sterile. Thats my opinon and it won't change. You continue to state your opnion as fact when it is just your opinion and nothing more. There is no right and wrong in this hobby just a load of differing opinions. No one's opinon is any better or worse then yours and you can't seem to acknowledge that.
 
Nov 10, 2005 at 3:17 AM Post #22 of 70
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Originally Posted by NightWoundsTime
howabout coming to the Tampa meet next weekend? We're friendly folks and we'll be glad to hear your gear and share ours with you. Florida Head-fi is calling you dear DR.


I will try - I am busy though. I truly would love to make it.

I invite anyone who can make it to Apoka or Gainesville to meet with me for extended and more private listening sessions, either comparing their stuff to mine or simply to audition mine with the CDs they bring.
 
Nov 10, 2005 at 3:19 AM Post #23 of 70
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Originally Posted by drarthurwells
I will try - I am busy though. I truly would love to make it.


Aww, how inconvenient
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Would've been so nice to see other people's opinions of what is in your opinion a very synergistic setup
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Nov 10, 2005 at 3:21 AM Post #24 of 70
Hi

Art you are such a self-righteous, arrogant idiot. In the majority of your posts you continously proclaim your gear as the best, however you have only limited experience with regard to high-end cans, sources and amps, therefore your CRAZY claims are totally unfounded. Moreover you lambast fellow head-fiers if they happen to dislike a can which you enjoy, your a grown man act like one, not a spoiled little baby. Finally you GOT TO UNDERSTAND everyone has different tastes, no two people are the same, what I like you might not like and vice versa. Also I recall the days when you used to make crazys claims about the lehmann amp you once had. You remind me of Nik a little bit, however without Niks experience and good manners.
 
Nov 10, 2005 at 3:22 AM Post #25 of 70
I'd give it a little more time before you make your decision. Your ears may need time to adjust to the new sound since you've gotten used to the old opamps. Even if you do end up switching back you won't be the first on this forum to do so
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Nov 10, 2005 at 3:24 AM Post #26 of 70
Back to the topic at hand.

I had a modded XCD-88 with the said 627s through my PPA, M3, Emotion +, and PPX paired with my HD600s and MS2s and RS2s that I had at the time and would never had ventured to say the source was overly bright. Give you gear some more time to burn in and I think you will be plesently suprised.

As for the SA5ks... they have never sounded anything but bright and treble heavy to me... even thrown at my PPX 6SN7.

edit: and GS-1 as well
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Nov 10, 2005 at 3:30 AM Post #27 of 70
Interesting...I wouldn't consider the OPA627 to be bright-sounding...

Drarthurwells -- I would recommend you audition an M^3 because your opinions of SS amps will change
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Nov 10, 2005 at 3:35 AM Post #28 of 70
Art: Solid state amps do make the SA 5000 sound "treble heavy, bright and sterile sounding" because the SA5000 accurately mirrors the characteristics of the SS amp. Because of this, a headphone with coloration, like the Grados, Audio Technicas, or the Sennheisers, may be better with many SS amps than the SA 5000.


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Originally Posted by tkam
Wrong, wrong, wrong I've heard the SA5K with a wide range of amps both tube and ss even hybrids like the Melos and they still sound treble heavy, bright and sterile. Thats my opinon and it won't change. You continue to state your opnion as fact when it is just your opinion and nothing more. There is no right and wrong in this hobby just a load of differing opinions. No one's opinon is any better or worse then yours and you can't seem to acknowledge that.


Art: I have never heard any solid state amp, including the best from Pass labs that didn't sound sterile, lean of timbre, and bright, to at a least some extent, when listened to them with an accurate source and speaker. Is it news to you that these are Solid State charactristics that are well known? You adapt to this in listening to SS and are only reminded of it when you hear good tube sound - then you say, That is what I've been missing!"

Tube amps tend to mollify this with a richer sound, but tend to lose the definition (particualry in the bass range), lack of coloration, transient impact, and dynamics of SS. The Bada PH12 (with the tubes I recommend) gives the best of both tube and Solid State, and the most natural timbre I have found, with the SA 5000 headphones. This result surpasses the headphone systems I have either owned or heard, to such an extent, that it tells me of the superiority of each of the components in the chain. My arrogance is assurance and confidence, based on 50 years of hi fi experience.
 
Nov 10, 2005 at 3:38 AM Post #29 of 70
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Originally Posted by grandenigma1
As for the [size=xx-large]SA5000's[/size]... they have never sounded anything but [size=xx-large]bright and treble heavy[/size] to me... even thrown at my [size=xx-large]PPX 6SN7.[/size]


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Nov 10, 2005 at 3:42 AM Post #30 of 70
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Originally Posted by drarthurwells

Art: I have never heard any solid state amp, including the best from Pass labs that didn't sound sterile, lean of timbre, and bright, to at a least some extent, when listened to them with an accurate source and speaker. Is it news to you that these are Solid State charactristics that are well known? You adapt to this in listening to SS and are only reminded of it when you hear good tube sound - then you say, That is what I've been missing!"



Exactly why you should listen to an M^3....which is a tubey-sounding SS amp that contradicts the bolded words above...you will then realize that you can't be tossing "blanket statements" around like tkam said.
 

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