INTRODUCTION
NuForce made its name under Jason Lim's leadership developing high-performance audio products that didn't break the bank. Their IEM were known for their warm, smooth sound, and I've read great things about their Primo8 quad-BA IEM. Jason Lim has moved on, but the NuForce brand is still going strong under the new Optoma NuForce brand name. Optoma is a well-known projector company that decided to diversify into the home and portable audio markets with its acquisition of NuForce. Recently, @jyri at Optoma NuForce reached out to me and asked if I'd be interested in reviewing their flagship NE800M IEM. While I was familiar with the NuForce brand, I'd never tried any of their products. So I told Jyri that I'd give them a shot and will let you know what my experience using them as my daily driver IEM for the past week has been.Optoma NuForce Website: LINK.
Dedicated NuForce NE800M thread: LINK.
DISCLAIMER
There is no financial incentive from Optoma NuForce for writing this review. I am in no way affiliated with Optoma NuForce, and this is my honest opinion of the NE800M. I would like to thank Optoma NuForce for giving me a chance to review the NE800M, and I hope my feedback proves useful for my fellow Head-Fi members as well as for NuForce.ABOUT ME
I'm a 43 year old father who loves music. While I listen mostly to electronic and metal these days, I do listen to a wide variety of music - from electronic (Autechre, Boards of Canada) to modern/minimalist composition (John Cage, Philip Glass) to alternative rock (Flaming Lips, Radiohead) to jazz (John Coltrane and Miles Davis) to metal (Behemoth, King Diamond) to classic rock (Eagles, Rush).I'm primarily a portable audio enthusiast. My portable music journey started with the venerable Sony Cassette Walkman and then progressed to portable CD players, minidisc recorders (still have my Sharp DR7), and finally on to DAPs like the Rio Karma, iRiver IHP-1xx, iPod 5.5, iPhones, and the newer crop of DAPs from Fiio and iBasso.
Being a portable audio enthusiast, I typically listen with IEMs but am enjoying listening with full-size headphones more and more and tend to like u-shaped sound signatures, although I break out v-shaped IEM & HP from time to time for fun.
As with a lot of people my age, I've got some hearing issues. I've got mild tinnitus and suffer from allergies, which can affect hearing in my right ear. I'll admit it, I'm not blessed with a pair of golden ears. That said, I've been listening to portable gear for a long time and feel confident in assessing audio gear - just wanted to be transparent up front.
SPECS
- Driver: 8.6mm Titanium-coated Single Dynamic
- Rated Impedance: 16Ω
- Frequency Range: 18Hz - 22kHz
- Sensitivity: 120dB at 1mW
- Rated Input Power: 10mW
- Cable: 1.3m cable
- Plug: 3.5mm gold-plated L-plug
- MSRP: ~$150 ($100 promotional price)
PACKAGING & ACCESSORIES
As usual, I'll go over packaging in pictorial format below.
Front
Rear
Inside
Accessories
NE800M + Case
Silicone Tips
In all, you get:
- NE800M
- S, M, L Silicone Tips
- M, L Comply Tips
- Storage Case
- Shirt Clip
As this was my first experience with NuForce, I didn't know what to expect. The accessories package was adequate, but I'd like to see more silicone tip choices included. As I'll outline below, I found the stock tips weren't doing these any favors and worked my way through several tips before I settled on my favorites. I'm glad a shirt clip was included because the rubbery cale is microphonic without it. I put it on straight away and would recommend you do the same. Finally, the storage case I received is the older version. The updated case in @HiFiChris's review is the case you'll receive. It looks like a nicer case, so if you're curious about that please head on over to his excellent review and check it out. I should be getting the updated case in the near future and will update my review at that point.
BUILD & ERGONOMICS
Again, I'll walk you through the NE800M's build in pictorial format, commenting on what I like and what I think could be improved along the way.NE800M Without Tips
Even if it doesn't look like it, there's a lot to talk about in this picture. The earpieces are constructed of carbon fiber and brass. I think they're pretty swank. I'll point out that I'm happy NuForce put the vents on the front of the earpiece just under the nozzle. This makes wind noise a non-issue unless you're outside in gale force winds. I actually took a walk with these today. It was really windy out, and I got absolutely wind noise. That was surprising to me, as I usually get at least some wind noise even on moderately windy days. NuForce did a good job on that!
You can also see that the vent holes are rather large, meaning isolation is compromised a bit more than you might expect. It's not terrible by any means. Once you crank the music up, most environmental noise is dampened pretty well. Just not as well as some of my other dynamics with smaller vent holes.
The nozzles are standard size and have a good lip, which means you can tip roll to your heart's content and not worry about tips not fitting or falling off.
The flexible strain reliefs get the job done but don't fit the overall aesthetics of the NE800M, especially the red bead. I understand what NuForce was going for here. As my in-ear pictures will show below, the NE800M sit pretty flush with your ear. This means the strain reliefs will most likely rest along he bottom of your outer ear. In that respect, they're a really good design. The soft, flexible material is quite comfortable, and the contact with my ear isn't at all bothersome. And the red bead makes grabbing the correct earpiece easy no matter the lighting conditions because you've got both visual and touch indicators for the right earpiece. I just think they could be redesigned to better fit the overall aesthetics of the NE800M while remaining comfortable and practical.
Final thought for this picture is the cable. Yes, that cable. I'm not a fan of the cable. It's pretty thin, is sticky, and again just doesn't fit the overall aesthetics of the NE800M to my eyes, but it is practical. Stickiness is caused by a dual-layer silicone coating to increase durability. The lighter grey lines are nylon weave to again increase durability. So once again, I see what NuForce was going for, I just think that the same durability goals could be accomplished in a more aesthetically pleasing way.
Remote
The remote is Android / iDevice compatible, providing Play/Pause, and FFWD/REW functionality but no volume control. The single button is easy to click no matter whether you push in the middle or on the ends. There's also a mic for receiving calls. I use DAPs and don't tend to use my phone unless I'm listening to an audiobook or podcast, so the remote/mic module was more of a nuisance for me than anything. That's no fault of NuForce, and I point that out about every IEM I use that has a remote/mic module. For those of you who use a phone as your primary source, you should be satisfied with it but might be left yearning for volume controls. Once again, the remote/mic module is pretty plain-jane and doesn't fit the main aesthetic features on the earpieces.
Y-Splitter + Chin Slider
The y-splitter is fine, and the cinch stays put very nicely due to the sticky cable. Once you set it in place, it's not going to slide out of position on its own. But again, I can't help thinking the y-splitter doesn't fit the overall aesthetics put into play with the carbon fiber and brass earpieces.
L-Plug
Okay. I know, I know, you're tired of hearing me beat NuForce up about the lack of overall aesthetic integrity. Well, I'm happy to report that I don't have that problem with the 3.5mm L-plug. Not only does it fit the aesthetics, it's practical. The low-profile L-plug is slightly textured, making it relatively flush with my DAPs and easy to grip wen plugging and unplugging. It's also just a bit bendy, which helps further decrease strain when the cord is tugged. Finally, it's smartphone case friendly and sits completely flush with my iPhone case. I'm sure they exist and plenty of IEM use them, but I've never experienced such a low-profile 3.5mm L-plug and I really like it!
NE800M Ready To Rock!
Worn Down
This is obviously the way the NE800M are meant to be worn. My ears are a bit on the small side, and as you can see the NE800M really fill them up. Despite that, they remain comfortable for extended listening. In fact, I've had them in while typing away on this review for quite some time now, jamming tunes from such far-ranging artists as Candlemass, Nora Jones, and Ueno Masaaki. Three albums. Minimal fiddling. No discomfort. All sounded good. Not only is that pretty darn good, it also really surprising to me given how large the earpieces are relative to my ears.
Worn Over Ear
Yes, you can do it, but for me it definitely wasn't as comfortable as wearing them down. But then again, I'm a wear 'em down kinda guy, so if you're an over ear person just know you can do it. You might even find them comfortable, especially if your ears are larger than mine. And then there's the remote/mic module to contend with. When worn over ear, it hangs just below my jawline compared with at the bottom of my throat when worn down. Me? I'll be sticking with wearing them down!
SOUND
I listen to a lot of experimental electronic and metal and mainly used those genres to evaluate the NE800M, using the them as my sole IEM for a week. During that time, I mainly listened to them out of a new DAP I had in for testing, the Soundaware M1 Esther Analog (LINK). I did a bit of audiobook and podcast listening out of my iPhone 5s, as well. And just for kicks, I stacked the updated Aune B1 2016 Version portable amp (review coming soon!) with the M1 Esther and gave that a listen. I'll go over what I thought of the overall sound signature, my tip-rolling journey, what genres I enjoyed most, which genres didn't pair as well with NE800M, and which other IEM these sound similar to that you might be familiar with.
But first, a beauty shot with the Soundaware M1 Esther Analog in Silver.
Sound Signature
On first listen, I found these more bass-heavy than I preferred. I contacted Jyri, and he recommended I give them at least 50 hours of burn-in before starting to judge them. Okay, 50 hours later they're getting a little more balanced. I started commenting on the NE800M thread at this point, and @Dsnuts recommended at least 100 hours of burn-in at higher volume levels. Okay, back to the burn-in rig they go! Another 50 hours with the volume cranked up, and I called it good. So what did I hear with all that burn-in? I hear a warm, rich lower end, neutral upper mids, smooth upper end, and average soundstage and instrument separation. The lower end sounded a bit boomier than I'd like, so I decided to start tip rolling.
Adventures In Tip Rolling
I always start out with the stock silicone tips and then work through the rest of the supplied tips. If I'm not satisfied, I move on and start tip rolling. The stock tips were pretty good, but as mentioned above I found the bass a bit boomier than I'd like. They are also a bit stiffer than I'd like, so I moved on to the supplied Comply tips.
Not bad. Not bad at all... There's a reason NE800M are shown with Comply tips on the Optoma NuForce website. With Comply tips on, the bass tightened up and the upper wasn't too compromised, although there was a slight toll on soundstage. Comply tips definitely made them more comfortable than the stock tips, but I thought I could still squeeze a bit more out of the NE800M. So I got out my tip collection and started playing...
Foam-filled Sony Hybrids? Nope, not a fan. Regular hybrid tips? Nope. Neither of these helped with bass control and soundstage was compromised.
Heir-style tips? Those should work, right? Nice wide bore tips that they are. Nope. Still not feeling it.
How about SpinFit? Hmm, there's something here... Bass seems a bit more controlled. Not as good as with Comply, but the upper end isn't compromised. If anything, it's better than with any other tip I tried, and the soundstage and separation improved. Yup, SpinFit tips it is. Once I put these on, I didn't take them off.
Genres
If you're into warm, rich, smooth sound, then the NE800M are going to be a good all-around IEM for you. For those of you who listen to similar music as me, I found these worked well with black and doom metal and and also experimental electronic music. With doom metal from Candlemass, the enhanced bass and warm mids helped the music keep on chugging away and Messiah's voice was front and center. With black metal from Burzum, the warm lower end gave the music some body, while the smooth upper end controlled the harsh treble this genre is known for. With experimental electronic from Ueno Masaaki, the bass hit hard and was really satisfying and the SpinFit gave the NE800M enough soundstage and separation to let the music build up a nice atmosphere.
With classic metal Iron Maiden and classic rock from The Eagles, I could've used less warmth. With blackened death metal like Behemoth, I found the rapid-fire kick drums started blurring together a bit. A bit of bass reduction would help with these issues. With female vocals like Bjork, the vocals could be brought forward a bit to make them pop more.
Not music, but I found the NE800M sounded really good with audiobooks and podcasts. Most I listen to have a lot of male voices, and the NE800M really filled them out, giving them body and fullness. Much better than my more analytical IEM.
Comparisons
So what IEM have you heard (or heard of) that are like the NE800M? Think Brainwavz S5 but with a bit less bass and without the splashiness up top. These are fairly similar, but the NE800M come across more u-shaped as opposed to the S5's v-shape. Think RHA T20 with Bass Filter but with a bit more mid & upper bass and less upper mids / lower treble. These are more different than the S5 comparison, with the T20 having quicker, punchier bass, less warmth, and more energy up top (but without the splashiness that bothers some with the S5).
SUMMARY
So what do I think of the NE800M? I'm used to a cooler sound with quick, punchy bass and more energy up top, but I've listened to a few warmer, smoother IEM recently and they're definitely winning me over. They're not going to pull me away from my punchier, more energetic IEM by any means, but they give me a nice alternative. Quick, punchy, energetic for when I really want to plug in and engage with the music. Warm, rich, smooth for when I just want to relax and chill out with some music. Or say I'm heading out on a walk, the NE800M's warm, smooth, bass-enhanced sound signature now sounds balanced due to the environmental noise. I also like the earpiece design and aesthetics. NuForce did a good job there. I found the NE800M quite comfortable for extended listening, and their looks won't embarrass you or gain undue attention when you wear them outside the house. I also really like the low-profile 3.5mm L-plug. And for those of you who use IEM with a smartphone, these are easy to drive. I wouldn't see myself going much over 50% volume on my iPhone 5s with these.
What could be improved? I think knocking the bass down just a bit would help make these a better all-around IEM for more people. I'd also really like to see NuForce use a more supple, less sticky all-black cable. This would make the cable more manageable while integrating better with the very aesthetically-pleasing earpieces. Along those lines, I'd also like to see reworked strain reliefs and y-splitter. If nothing else, a darker red indicator that was more integrated into the strain relief and looked less like an add-on bead would better fit with the aesthetics I think NuForce is going for with the NE800M. Similarly, the y-splitter would better fit the overall aesthetics if it were made from one material. I'd recommend losing the shiny hard plastic NuForce used on the bottom of the y-splitter and just using the whole y-splitter out of the matte black plastic the top half and cinch are made out of. And finally, volume control on the remote/mic module would make the smartphone crowd even happier. If these issues were resolved in a future iteration of the NE800M, I could see giving it an extra 1/2 - 1 star depending on how many changes were made and how well they were implemented.
I hope you found this useful and would like to give a hearty thanks to @jyri at NuForce for giving me the opportunity to review the NE800M. It was a great introduction to the NuForce brand, and I look forward to hearing more from them in the future.