[rockin_amigo14]

buy the DAP first, THEN decide if you really want an amp depending on how you like the sound.

 

[Drag0n]

I understand your point about buying the dap first......but im a gadget freek,and whether i need it or not,i just want an amp anyway...lol.
I like to have toys.
And id use it on my Sony Minidisc,or CD Discman anyway,so i might as well get it. Or id use it as a mini pre amp for my portable speaker system.

Thanks though,,it was good advice for people that arent psycho-shoppers like me

 

[jowille]

I love my Zune! Hardly ever use the ipod 5.5g anymore! The sound quality of the Zune is excellent.

 

[PhantmShado]

Woah, thank god I got here in time!

Ok, someone earlier in the thread said the sound is nearly indistinguishable between the two devices. FALSE. The iAudio sounds NOTICABLY different from every other portable player I have heard (iPod(several generations), archos(several versions), creative(old jukebox and new micro), zune). So that means that I'm going to recommend the iAudio to you right? Not at all, my player is a zune even though I use linux. The different sound of the iAudio seems to me to be pure distortion that people that aren't intimate enough with their music mistake for being the best sound. I do not understand this. Every sound that goes through it comes out foggy and if you want to be energized by music in anyway, forget it. Same goes for trying to listen to classical through it: simply lifeless. I remember when I first threw out 250 for it, I sat back and plugged in all tense and waiting for an awesome experience. Moments later, I wanted to cry. I don't care what the "my toy" syndrome is making people think, do yourself a favor, get the zune. As much as the iaudio made me want to cry, the zune gave me audio nirvana back.

PhantmShado

 

[Drag0n]

OMG! Now that was convincing! Ive never heard anyone say the Iaudio sounded that bad though. Maybe it couldnt drive your high imp phones?
But ok,im leaning towards the Zune more and more though.
Most people seem to say it sounds like itll make it in the top 3,so ill prolly get a black one. Unless another color wud sound better...lol!!!
Thanks guys

 

[lisztian420]

I was in the same situation as you 2 months ago. Decided to go with the Zune and I love the sound quality! Actually, I think the big screen really helps... Ever since I got my zune I have been watching a lot of movies and shows during my cardio trainings. I am looking foward to the 100 gig toshiba hd and will do a simple mod to improve my hd capacity and battery life soon...

 

[Konig]

u wont regret x5 but does any1 know if cowon is going to update it? ive been waiting 2 years for its replacement

 

[PhantmShado]

Not high impedence phones, I was using super.fi 5 pro. If you think than that it might have been the extreme low impedence, I also tried it out of my desktop speakers, same sound came out.

 

[3X0]

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantmShado /img/forum/go_quote.gif Woah, thank god I got here in time! Ok, someone earlier in the thread said the sound is nearly indistinguishable between the two devices. FALSE. The iAudio sounds NOTICABLY different from every other portable player I have heard (iPod(several generations), archos(several versions), creative(old jukebox and new micro), zune). So that means that I'm going to recommend the iAudio to you right? Not at all, my player is a zune even though I use linux. The different sound of the iAudio seems to me to be pure distortion that people that aren't intimate enough with their music mistake for being the best sound. I do not understand this. Every sound that goes through it comes out foggy and if you want to be energized by music in anyway, forget it. Same goes for trying to listen to classical through it: simply lifeless. I remember when I first threw out 250 for it, I sat back and plugged in all tense and waiting for an awesome experience. Moments later, I wanted to cry. I don't care what the "my toy" syndrome is making people think, do yourself a favor, get the zune. As much as the iaudio made me want to cry, the zune gave me audio nirvana back. PhantmShado

Please.

No, they don't sound very different. They have the similar depth, note resonance, and texture. The Zune has greater intensity towards the lower-to-high mid range, but the X5 is more prominent at the farthest ends. The Zune is slightly more musical through the headphone out, but the X5 is a equally more balanced when amplified (against a Zune amplified in the same manner). Simply put: neither will disappoint on sound. They both sound very good and are for most purposes sonic rivals.

You probably messed up the settings/DSP with your X5 (stock settings are crap). I and several acquaintances have used both units extensively and could point out no highly discernible differences between the two unless listening very carefully. Your accusation that people are farcical in believing the fidelity of the X5's sound is in itself slanderous, arguably biased, and overblown. If you were in this for fidelity you'd have an ER4S and not a SF5P.

With all due respect, I doubt it's the variable of hearing differently, but I find that kind of flak against a very esteemed player with bloomy hyperbolic language and vague description both unnecessarily inflammatory and quite unjustified. But each to his own.

 

[rockin_amigo14]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konig /img/forum/go_quote.gif u wont regret x5 but does any1 know if cowon is going to update it? ive been waiting 2 years for its replacement

www.dapreview.net


the news item says we should expect one this summer.


Oh boy, am I excited!

**edit**

as of this post, i officially average 2 posts per day. woohoo!

 

[PrototypeX2]

I found X5 to be too colored sounding; I still prefer the Zune over it.
But it really is a matter of preference since both players are pretty much the apex of pure DAP.

 

[TonySunshine]

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockin_amigo14 /img/forum/go_quote.gif www.dapreview.net the news item says we should expect one this summer. Oh boy, am I excited! **edit** as of this post, i officially average 2 posts per day. woohoo!

omg I think I need to change my pants
The x7 is really coming after all this time?

 

[PhantmShado]

Rockboxed it, gave it neutral settings, still had no issue distinguishing it from other portables on either sf5p or speakers. Fine though, I'll admit there's a chance to my opinion on this one, I just assume that if every other player does the sound one way (and the way I happen to like more) I would consider the other ones right and this one wrong. The base of every sounds recording is the same data for all, it is not open to interpretation, but whatev... so long as we both enjoy our choices.

 

[variable114]

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockin_amigo14 /img/forum/go_quote.gif www.dapreview.net the news item says we should expect one this summer. Oh boy, am I excited! **edit** as of this post, i officially average 2 posts per day. woohoo!

and I just ordered my x5!

oh well... no regrets.

 

[alrose312]

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockin_amigo14 /img/forum/go_quote.gif www.dapreview.net the news item says we should expect one this summer.

...what happened to the X6?