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ZMF Pendant by Ampsandsound; impressions, tube-rolling, and general discussions
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Listening with the Sylvania black plate now. Only about 20 minutes so far, but I like it. The RCA black plate has a little more bass but it's a more bloated bass. The bass with the Sylvania seems more natural sounding and not bass shy by any means.
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Thanks to @ProfFalkin I am going to start rolling some tubes today starting off with the EL84 Tungsram's to see how they change the sound! Rolling with the new LTD Edition Vérité Open in Desert Ironwood beautiful looking and sounding!
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I don't want to lead the witness but I think you may like the Tungsram EL84 in your Pendant with the VO. I know I do!Thanks to @ProfFalkin I am going to start rolling some tubes today starting off with the EL84 Tungsram's to see how they change the sound! Rolling with the new LTD Edition Vérité Open in Desert Ironwood beautiful looking and sounding!
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Aeolus open back.
Everyone says that the Verite/Pendant combination is the one to have. It’s a money thing for me. The Verite were over budget.
Maybe some day.
I would actually say the Aeolus Pendant combo is pretty damn sweet! I have been listening with both and enjoy them equally!
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I usually buy them on eBay - they seem to be around 30 to 60 bucks depending on the seller. Did they replace them with something newer and cooler?
I have a few monster power strips from my home theater days that work great, also another option may be the panamax strips as well, I have a couple of those too.
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After spending almost 1K$ in tubes to get around to experimenting with different combinations.. My favorite combination by far is the Mullard CV4003/12AU7 with Tunsgram EL84 O Getter using ZMF Verite Open with Suede Universe Pads. Keep in mind I was looking for a combination of 3d soundstage, detail retrieval, bass and overall slam as I tend to listen to more Electronic & Industrial / Modern day Metal music and do a lot of Gaming (seeking that cinematic immersion)
My current list of tubes other than the ones mentioned above
12AX7-
Mullard Longplate Blackburn1957 Square Getter
Telefunken Black Diamond
PSVANE TI II
12AU7-
7316 Amperex Long Plates 1958
ECC99-
JJ Electronics
5751-
Raytheon 5751 Orange Label
EL84-
Sylvania Red Tip Black Plate
Sylvania Black Plate Baldwins
Gold Lion
Sovtek
Mullard Blackburn D-Getter rX1 CV2975
My current list of tubes other than the ones mentioned above
12AX7-
Mullard Longplate Blackburn1957 Square Getter
Telefunken Black Diamond
PSVANE TI II
12AU7-
7316 Amperex Long Plates 1958
ECC99-
JJ Electronics
5751-
Raytheon 5751 Orange Label
EL84-
Sylvania Red Tip Black Plate
Sylvania Black Plate Baldwins
Gold Lion
Sovtek
Mullard Blackburn D-Getter rX1 CV2975
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After spending almost 1K$ in tubes to get around to experimenting with different combinations.. My favorite combination by far is the Mullard CV4003/12AU7 with Tunsgram EL84 O Getter using ZMF Verite Open with Suede Universe Pads. Keep in mind I was looking for a combination of 3d soundstage, detail retrieval, bass and overall slam as I tend to listen to more Electronic & Industrial / Modern day Metal music and do a lot of Gaming (seeking that cinematic immersion)
My current list of tubes other than the ones mentioned above
12AX7-
Mullard Longplate Blackburn1957 Square Getter
Telefunken Black Diamond
PSVANE TI II
12AU7-
7316 Amperex Long Plates 1958
ECC99-
JJ Electronics
5751-
Raytheon 5751 Orange Label
EL84-
Sylvania Red Tip Black Plate
Sylvania Black Plate Baldwins
Gold Lion
Sovtek
Mullard Blackburn D-Getter rX1 CV2975
Ha, I know the feeling with spending money on tubes. I'm glad you know what kind of music/sound experience you are after. Still trying out different tubes to get to know/pinpoint my preferences, instead of just enjoying myself.
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After spending almost 1K$ in tubes to get around to experimenting with different combinations.. My favorite combination by far is the Mullard CV4003/12AU7 with Tunsgram EL84 O Getter using ZMF Verite Open with Suede Universe Pads. Keep in mind I was looking for a combination of 3d soundstage, detail retrieval, bass and overall slam as I tend to listen to more Electronic & Industrial / Modern day Metal music and do a lot of Gaming (seeking that cinematic immersion)
I strongly second your EL84 Tungsram pairing in the Pendant!
I listen to more mellow music and 0 gaming and may need more energy. My 1950's Mullard 12AU7 Blackburn as well as Brimar CV4033 and Marconi B309 sound a bit too polite. With your findings, however, I should give them another try.
I went through so many 12AT7 and 12AU7 when I first got the Pendant that I may not have given them enough time to get an accurate take.
I now find I go back and forth between Valvo 6201 (blue or white label) , Raytheon 7728 / 7730, Amperex 7316 and Siemens E81CC.
I didn't hear a ton of difference with the rectifiers so settled on Telefunken EZ81 that may actually be Mullard production.
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I strongly second your EL84 Tungsram pairing in the Pendant!
I listen to more mellow music and 0 gaming and may need more energy. My 1950's Mullard 12AU7 Blackburn as well as Brimar CV4033 and Marconi B309 sound a bit too polite. With your findings, however, I should give them another try.
I went through so many 12AT7 and 12AU7 when I first got the Pendant that I may not have given them enough time to get an accurate take.
I now find I go back and forth between Valvo 6201 (blue or white label) , Raytheon 7728 / 7730, Amperex 7316 and Siemens E81CC.
I didn't hear a ton of difference with the rectifiers so settled on Telefunken EZ81 that may actually be Mullard production.
Yeah, the Mullard Blackburn is definitely a bit polite so I was quite surprised when the Mullard CV4003 was quite a contrast, as it offered a lot of kick and life to the over all sound as well as a larger overall soundstage over the Mullard Blackburn Longplate.
I really like the Amperex 7316 as well, I'll definitely be going back to that one eventually, The others probably have about 10-30 hours of burn in and I'll eventually do some more experimenting, but I have such a bad habit of swapping out what I typically don't like after 10-20 hours and throwing back in what I prefer. So it could possibly be I haven't allowed a lot of these proper time to fully come in.
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Nice!
At least you give them 10-20 hours to go back to what you prefer. I am not that patient and tend to change rather quickly.
At least you give them 10-20 hours to go back to what you prefer. I am not that patient and tend to change rather quickly.
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Got my ZMF Pendant with custom wood! Looks like it's following all the recent designs as well:
Question: Is the smaller, bottom right tube (12AX7) supposed to light up? Mine does not but it does get hot to the touch at least. Sound seems fine so I guess the tube is working ok?
Question: Is the smaller, bottom right tube (12AX7) supposed to light up? Mine does not but it does get hot to the touch at least. Sound seems fine so I guess the tube is working ok?
Got my ZMF Pendant with custom wood! Looks like it's following all the recent designs as well:
Question: Is the smaller, bottom right tube (12AX7) supposed to light up? Mine does not but it does get hot to the touch at least. Sound seems fine so I guess the tube is working ok?
Beautiful amp! And an awesome sounding and versatile one, at that. I'm sure you'll enjoy it tremendously.
I can confirm that my input 12AX7 tube doesn't glow, either. The outputs and the rectifier have a beautiful, warm orange glow, though. Some tubes just don't glow altogether, some do, but my experience is that 12AX/T/U7 series tubes tend to not glow much in most circuits. Totally normal.
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