Also, I hear the touch-pad is more sensitive but easy to live with. Also, it's smaller than the respective iPod and being creative, much better value for money (what they do best). It includes an FM radio and built-in mic.
Okay so they may be one generation behind in the mp3 player stakes, but they're also cheaper than the previous generation, so generally that makes creative players better value for money.
I don't need an attractive mp3 player anyway... I have my Sony Ericsson K750i to attract the ladies, with it's sexy 2 megapixel camera, although I'm yet to encounter an eagle carrying a grizzly bear through the skies, as the UK advert would imply occurs over here.