XMOS XU208 USB BRIDGES - THE LATEST GEN HAS ARRIVED!
Jan 13, 2018 at 8:47 PM Post #3,782 of 3,865
Sorry, I'm a noob in driver...
an "evaluation" driver is not ok ?
It's alright but after an hour it sends out beep signals in the music stream every 5 minutes.
 
Jan 13, 2018 at 8:58 PM Post #3,784 of 3,865
ok thanks SuperUser.
I asked the seller (on Aliexpress) of the DDC to send me the right driver. I'll see if they have it or send me back to the eval driver :frowning2:
Sure. Keep us updated.
 
Jan 19, 2018 at 8:34 PM Post #3,785 of 3,865
This is my update Superuser1.
i'm testing the Breeze XU208.
I received no feedback from the Aliexpress retailer...
I'm running a PC with W10, W10 found the Breeze & installed the "xCore USBAudio 2.0" driver. Nothing to do, I just left W10 to manage to new interface.

First impression on the this Breeze XU208 vs the DU-U8 (previous Breeze version) which I heavily modded : they seem to be very close.
Thus, it seems the XU208 is a big improvement vs the previous version (stock version).
More testing this weekend.
 
Jan 19, 2018 at 8:47 PM Post #3,786 of 3,865
Thanks for the update @phile1
I have settled on the Win 10 USB 2 audio too. Please test further and let us know. Mine has been working alright with the bit depth locked to 24 bits.
 
Jan 19, 2018 at 11:41 PM Post #3,787 of 3,865
This is my update Superuser1.
i'm testing the Breeze XU208.
I received no feedback from the Aliexpress retailer...
I'm running a PC with W10, W10 found the Breeze & installed the "xCore USBAudio 2.0" driver. Nothing to do, I just left W10 to manage to new interface.

First impression on the this Breeze XU208 vs the DU-U8 (previous Breeze version) which I heavily modded : they seem to be very close.
Thus, it seems the XU208 is a big improvement vs the previous version (stock version).
More testing this weekend.

If you send me a PM with your email I will send you the driver the AliExpress retailer sent me. I like it better than the W10 native driver because it includes a functional ASIO driver. The W10 appears to only have a WASAPI driver. I like the ASIO driver better.
 
Jan 19, 2018 at 11:56 PM Post #3,788 of 3,865
If you send me a PM with your email I will send you the driver the AliExpress retailer sent me. I like it better than the W10 native driver because it includes a functional ASIO driver. The W10 appears to only have a WASAPI driver. I like the ASIO driver better.
Or better still if you would be kind to upload it to dropbox and share the link with us. :wink:
You are bang on about Win 10 driver only having WASAPI and being stuck to 24 bit
 
Jan 22, 2018 at 12:34 PM Post #3,790 of 3,865
I'm currently using the Singxer SU-1 driver. It defaults to 24bit. If I select 16bit, it will not play 24bit MQA files via Tidal. Well, it does play but in standard 44.1/16.
 
Jan 22, 2018 at 1:34 PM Post #3,791 of 3,865
I'm currently using the Singxer SU-1 driver. It defaults to 24bit. If I select 16bit, it will not play 24bit MQA files via Tidal. Well, it does play but in standard 44.1/16.

That's to be expected. This setting limits the reported device capabilities from the driver, Tidal checks the device capabilities when it decides on the output format of the MQA transcode, if it is 16 bit it falls back to redbook. This is exactly the issue I'm having with my Matrix DDC's driver, it doesn't have the 16-bit mode only 24, so Tidal transcodes to 24/96 or 24/82.1 which my DAC can't understand. Well, to be fair not an issue but more of an annoyance as I can just disable MQA in Tidal and then it uses 16/44.1kHz always.
 
Jan 29, 2018 at 1:57 PM Post #3,792 of 3,865
I'm currently thinking of replacing my Singxer F-1 with Matrix X-SPDIF2. Has anyone tried it with Marantz HD-DAC1 with the coaxial rca-connection? If you have, how was the sound quality (especially compared to F-1)?
 
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Jan 29, 2018 at 2:02 PM Post #3,793 of 3,865
I don't quite understand why would anyone want to use an external DDC with a DAC that already has a modern async USB interface because depending on how good DAC's SPDIF interface is you're potentially introducing additional jitter by adding the SPDIF link. If you want I2C for DSD sure, but SPDIF?
 
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Jan 29, 2018 at 2:48 PM Post #3,794 of 3,865
I don't quite understand why would anyone want to use an external DDC with a DAC that already has a modern async USB interface because depending on how good DAC's SPDIF interface is you're potentially introducing additional jitter by adding the SPDIF link. If you want I2C for DSD sure, but SPDIF?

So you mean that pairing Matrix with Marantz wouldn't make any sense with the coaxial rca-connection?
 
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Jan 29, 2018 at 3:04 PM Post #3,795 of 3,865
Because you add one layer of electrical isolation, which mitigates the impact of the noisy USB connection.
Whether noise (USB) or jitter (S/PDIF) is the dominant source of sound deterioration depends on the rest of the system, including the source (PC, streaming box, ...)

Ideally, you'd want both electrical isolation AND re-clocking before (or in) the DAC.
 

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