stigb
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The jumpers are under the case. Easy to set. But I didn't have to change the jumpers for the SU-1 to work with my DirectStream Dac and I2S.
They should have made the SU-1 with a dc jack instead of a transformer, less emi/rfi inside chassis and cleaner power if buying a lps.
Singxer SU-1
I got mine a couple a days ago. I use it with the StarTech Port USB 2.0 Extender over Gigabit to the SU-1 and then connect to PS Audio DirectStream Dac via I2S.
The sound is the best I have heard from my system yet.
I would guess using the scale of soundquality used by rb2013 it is about 20 point higher than his highest.
I agree!
How would you know - you haven't even heard my uber USB chain? Highly doubt the SU-1 beats a really good LPS on the F-1. The circuits are about the same (but not identical).
The AOIP Rednet is in another universe then any USB I have heard. And with a host of recent tweeks made better and better. I'd estimate the RN3/Mutec about 150pts higher then the SU-1.
But for $300 the SU-1 is a good value for the money - just not sota computer audio - don't kid yourself.
I didn't say I know I said I guessed. And how would you know mine isn't better, you haven't heard my über SU-1 chain with I2S out to the DAC.
Just kidding.
Good point! Have you tried a Regen or Recovery with the SU-1? Just wondering if they have as much of an impact as with the F-1. Same for the iPur2. Even with the ICRON/Startech GB Lan Iso Audio (must be the Iso Audio version) USB extender, these improved the SQ.
Speaking of - do you have the F-1 to compare? Curious as to how they sound side by side.
Obviously I love the Singxer designed gear. He's been following my AOIP thread - so we shall see what he comes up with there.
PS What DAC are you using? The Gustard X20?
I have the PS DirectStream DAC.
I had the Regen in my chain before. But now with the StarTech Port USB 2.0 Extender over Gigabit (it is the ISO) to the SU-1 I didn't think that the Regen could make it better. I use my Plex LPS to the Startech so now i don't have an LPS to the Regen. But it is worth a try to put the Regen back
Sorry no F-1, because my goal was to output I2S my PS DirectStream DAC.
The Recovery is better then the Regen - you should give that a try at some point. I'd also try using a split USB cable from the Startech to the SU-1 (data leg only).
I did a face off for an evening on a PS Perfectwave Directstream DAC with the Breeze Audio DU-U8 $150) fed by spdif (unfortunately just a BJC cable) and the $1800 OR5 (with the Turbo PS) by i2s (PS Audio cable) to the PS Audio. So we could do on the fly (well pretty nearly) comparisons. So I do think i2s is better - but not by leaps over spdif.
The OR5 and i2s was a bit better - but the spdif Breeze was within shooting distance. I'd say the F-1 would be a very close match - and maybe beat the OR5/i2s.
The REDNET - well I don't think it would be a fair fight - just in a different league. Even with spdif.
I use the Curious USB cable from my tX-USBexp-card (from SOtM) to the StarTech and a Curious USB cable from the StarTech to the SU-1. Is there a better cable that you recommend?
on par with that and I have a better DAC than you.
Well, - having both RBs DAC, - (I own the APL too), and having a Directstream DAC in my system to directly compare: I can say that your statement is entirely untrue...
At least from where I sit....
Cheers,
I did a face off for an evening on a PS Perfectwave Directstream DAC with the Breeze Audio DU-U8 $150) fed by spdif (unfortunately just a BJC cable) and the $1800 OR5 (with the Turbo PS) by i2s (PS Audio cable) to the PS Audio. So we could do on the fly (well pretty nearly) comparisons. So I do think i2s is better - but not by leaps over spdif.
You are sitting to far from your systemif you think that the APL is better than the DirectStream.
Just joking around, Of course everyone has their own preference. I'm glad you like your APL better than the Directstream.
Cheers mate!
Well, - having both RBs DAC, - (I own the APL too), and having a Directstream DAC in my system to directly compare: I can say that your statement is entirely untrue...
At least from where I sit....
Cheers,
You are sitting to far from your systemif you think that the APL is better than the DirectStream.
Just joking around, Of course everyone has their own preference. I'm glad you like your APL better than the Directstream.
Cheers mate!
Nice to know that you also tried the Direcstream back to back with your APL. For me, - it didn't do as advertised, - which was to make Redbook sound like DSD.
I didn't try it with I2s however. Of course, - the APL can't do I2s, - so it wasn't a completely unfair test.
My AS Statement 1.5m SPDIF cable is due to arrive here at work any second.....
We're going to be cranking some music tonight.
I hear ya... I'm also on the "taking the piss" bus....
The Directstream is a great product. And I'm not sure whether APL or PS Audio was first out with their versions. APL does make a tubed, reference, FPGA-everything-to-DSD, DAC as well as a non-tubed, - more budget DSD-s version that is priced similarly to the Directstream.
They're all great
Having heard all three DACs - I would have to agree.
While the Perfectwave DirectStream is very good - especially on DSD native files - it lacks the bloom and tonality of the APL and particularly the intensely dense tonal pallette of the modded DAC60. This is due to the very well done tube output stages on both these DACs.
I'd have to concure with Darko on his ranking of the Perfectwave and Directwave (on PCM files): The Perfectwave kinda in there with the Gumby, the Directwave a notch above, but not at the top. Note the R2R PCM1704 , tubed output, La Scala MkII at the top of his list.
http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/the-darko-dac-index/
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