Steve Eddy
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Then apparently you've only seen it when it's thick enough that it looks dark gray/black.
When you said it was "rainbow coloured," I knew it was silver sulfide. The rainbow coloring is classic silver tarnishing, which is typically brought about by the silver reacting with sulfur compounds in the air (Ag2O + H2S --> Ag2S + H2O).
Here's a good example of the rainbow coloring on a piece of silver:
That it is rainbow colored and not dark gray/black only means that it's in the earlier stages of tarnishing.
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It's good that they're replacing them (though again, you could just dip them in Tarn-X and get rid of it). But it's an environmental issue, not an issue of the underlying quality of the Neutrik connectors. Any connector using silver contacts would suffer the same fate if they were subject to the same environmental conditions. It's the nature of the silver itself.
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I guess it depends on what exactly defines the "league."
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No, no black. The body's machined from stainless steel, not cast in zinc like the others. Would be a bit of a shame to paint it black.
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Again, what exactly defines the "league"?
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So how does the 8% tin in the Neutrik pins manage to screw things up? Or is the "league" you're referring to just an ideological/philosophical one?
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Originally Posted by qusp /img/forum/go_quote.gif well perhaps I got a bad batch, because 4 out of 10 males I got were dodgy, actually just looked at them again, its not silver sulphide, IU know what that looks like, anytime i've seen it, its been dark grey/black, this isnt whatever you say, I repeat I have seen silver sulphide and this isnt it. |
Then apparently you've only seen it when it's thick enough that it looks dark gray/black.
When you said it was "rainbow coloured," I knew it was silver sulfide. The rainbow coloring is classic silver tarnishing, which is typically brought about by the silver reacting with sulfur compounds in the air (Ag2O + H2S --> Ag2S + H2O).
Here's a good example of the rainbow coloring on a piece of silver:
That it is rainbow colored and not dark gray/black only means that it's in the earlier stages of tarnishing.
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well I suspect they use the same process for all of them, I cant see them developing an entirely different plating process for each range, i've never seen this before either, they are being good about replacing them, but if there are any problems with the replacements, I wont be using them again. |
It's good that they're replacing them (though again, you could just dip them in Tarn-X and get rid of it). But it's an environmental issue, not an issue of the underlying quality of the Neutrik connectors. Any connector using silver contacts would suffer the same fate if they were subject to the same environmental conditions. It's the nature of the silver itself.
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regardless you or anyone are not going to convince me to replace BAXLR and its ilk with neutrik, sorry but regardless, even a fu;lly functional and perfect neutrik 4 pin (of any type) is not in the same league IMO |
I guess it depends on what exactly defines the "league."
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they look pretty sweet, perhaps i'll get them to replace with them instead. do they come in black?? |
No, no black. The body's machined from stainless steel, not cast in zinc like the others. Would be a bit of a shame to paint it black.
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now lets leave this subject alone shall we?? I dont think its fair to IPodPJ that this thread is taken off topic to the point where his and your build is forgotten. you certainly are obsessed; when someone releases one that can play in the same league as my current choices, i'll think about it. |
Again, what exactly defines the "league"?
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well, its not copper, currently I can build a cable that is copper from head to toe, well except for a short length of rhodium (for HD6XX) or whatever the HD800 ODU connectors are based on. for a hardwired cable its possible to have copper from start to finish (other than the solder at the headphone driver, the BAXLR are solderless) with a thick silver plate and a solid teflon, peek, polyamide or delrin chassis |
So how does the 8% tin in the Neutrik pins manage to screw things up? Or is the "league" you're referring to just an ideological/philosophical one?
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