Wire with Gain, What does it take to achieve synergistic next generation audio from input to output?
May 7, 2015 at 1:29 PM Post #16 of 29
http://www.cultofmac.com/173702/why-retina-isnt-enough-feature/
 
That took me less than a minute to find "Why Retina isn't Enough"
 
12 years is a long time dude...
 
I can understand your argument your suggesting that pushing the limits above and beyond is overkill, I'm suggesting that there is no way to know for sure until the limit has been achieved. 
 
As a "member of the trade" the "audio guild" is the current state of audio a static peak?    
 
May 7, 2015 at 2:11 PM Post #17 of 29
http://www.cultofmac.com/173702/why-retina-isnt-enough-feature/

That took me less than a minute to find "Why Retina isn't Enough"


Did you actually bother to read it and understand exactly what it was saying or did you go no further than the title?


12 years is a long time dude...


Not so long when you consider I've been involved in the audio industry and participating in online forums such as this for some 30 years.


I can understand your argument your suggesting that pushing the limits above and beyond is overkill, I'm suggesting that there is no way to know for sure until the limit has been achieved.


Sure there is.


As a "member of the trade" the "audio guild" is the current state of audio a static peak?    


As far as electronics go, yes. For some time now. And as far as cables go, which is what you came into this argument with, the answer has been yes for over a century.

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May 7, 2015 at 3:03 PM Post #18 of 29
"Apple’s definition of Retina is based upon the vision of seniors" and "For the iPhone 4S to have a true Retina display, it needs 65% smaller pixels."
 
http://www.cultofmac.com/173702/why-retina-isnt-enough-feature/
 
So according to the link above the iPhone4s not the iPad is a true retina display assuming that you have old geezer vision
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http://aftermasterhd.com/listen-2/ something newish is coming to the head market
 
Static peak you say can you back that up with something other than your opinion 
 
You say cables have been perfected for over a century, yet
 
"The Cable Company has been in business for 23 years, and if most people who listened to cables didn't hear a big enough difference to justify the expense, its business model wouldn't work. Remember, everybody returns the loaned cables anyway, so it's not like they just settle for the wires because they're in the system. You don't have to take anyone's word that such and such a cable is great. Either you hear a difference or you don't, and you get 7 to 10 days with the cables before you have to send them back."
 
 
http://www.thecableco.com/
 
http://www.cnet.com/news/can-expensive-audio-cables-improve-the-sound-of-a-hi-fi/
 
Must be the neurosis..
 
May 7, 2015 at 3:07 PM Post #19 of 29
  I can understand your argument your suggesting that pushing the limits above and beyond is overkill, I'm suggesting that there is no way to know for sure until the limit has been achieved.

 
It's been my experience that there are plenty of people who never know for sure when the limit has been achieved. Instead of relying on simple controlled perceptual tests, they rely on subjective impressions colored by OCD. "Maybe I'm missing something and don't even realize it." "I might not be able to hear the difference between lossy and lossless right now, but what about later down the road?" "If I bought an amplifier with distortion of .0002%, it MUST sound better than one with .2%."
 
These folks take every achievement and double it by half and move their goalposts a little further. The ability to convince ones' self that "too much is never enough" is infinite; however the human ability to hear is finite. That goalpost has been pushed so far off into the distance now, we can't even see it on the horizon.
 
Meanwhile the promise of "perfect sound forever" was delivered decades ago, but they never realized it because they were focused more on numbers on a page than their own ability to hear.
 
May 7, 2015 at 3:29 PM Post #20 of 29
"Apple’s definition of Retina is based upon the vision of seniors" and "For the iPhone 4S to have a true Retina display, it needs 65% smaller pixels."
 
http://www.cultofmac.com/173702/why-retina-isnt-enough-feature/
 
So according to the link above the iPhone4s not the iPad is a true retina display assuming that you have old geezer vision :tongue_smile:


Ok, you read it, but didn't understand it.

I'm not going to waste time hashing out the article. My point is the same.
 

http://aftermasterhd.com/listen-2/ something newish is coming to the head market


I read their "About" page. All I saw was a bunch of gibberish. Sure, you can play with DSP and come up with all sorts of gimmickry. Like faux "surround sound" using just two channels. I see nothing where they've identified any real problem and are offering a real solution. Just gimmickery.

 
Static peak you say can you back that up with something other than your opinion


I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to say here.


 
You say cables have been perfected for over a century, yet
 
"The Cable Company has been in business for 23 years, and if most people who listened to cables didn't hear a big enough difference to justify the expense, its business model wouldn't work. Remember, everybody returns the loaned cables anyway, so it's not like they just settle for the wires because they're in the system. You don't have to take anyone's word that such and such a cable is great. Either you hear a difference or you don't, and you get 7 to 10 days with the cables before you have to send them back."
 
 
http://www.thecableco.com/
 
http://www.cnet.com/news/can-expensive-audio-cables-improve-the-sound-of-a-hi-fi/
 
Must be the neurosis..


You have a lot to learn.

And if your only "arguments" are just throwing up crap you found on the Internet, I suggest you go some place other than Sound Science. Did you know Obama was born in Kenya and that his birth certificate is fake? It's true! I saw it on the Internet!

*sigh*

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May 7, 2015 at 3:44 PM Post #21 of 29
Did you know that Steve Eddy, Member of the Trade: The Audio Guild, Headphoneus Supremus, said audio cables make absolutely no difference at all I read that **** on Head-Fi it must be true!
 
May 7, 2015 at 4:01 PM Post #22 of 29
Did you know that Steve Eddy, Member of the Trade: The Audio Guild, Headphoneus Supremus, said audio cables make absolutely no difference at all I read that **** on Head-Fi it must be true!


Oh, they make a difference. Just not an audible one. And in the 30+ years I've been in this industry, no one has ever demonstrated that they do, unless they're either broken or designed so poorly by some hack who has no clue what they're doing that they do. As my friend often says, cables are a "solved problem."

Like I said, you have a lot to learn. But I get the sense that you have no real interest in learning, just regurgitating. And Sound Science isn't the place for regurgitating.

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May 7, 2015 at 4:27 PM Post #24 of 29
After 30+ years of problem solving research Steve Eddy releases his signature model...The science model


Show me a "problem" that has needed solving with respect to cables in the last 100 years. Otherwise, I'm going to ask that you get booted out of Sound Science as nothing but a troll.

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May 7, 2015 at 4:42 PM Post #25 of 29
  After 30+ years of problem solving research Steve Eddy releases his signature model...The science model

 
That kind of behavior will get you booted around here. The admins don't have much of a sense of humor.
 
May 7, 2015 at 4:47 PM Post #26 of 29
http://phys.org/news/2014-12-superconductivity-cooling.html
 
Superconductivity without cooling
 
Can you tell me what an amp made with super conductive materials sounds like or how about the sound of speaker cables made of superconductive material?
 
You can't and you don't know therefore you can't be certain Steve
 
 
 
 
 

 

 
May 7, 2015 at 5:00 PM Post #27 of 29
http://phys.org/news/2014-12-superconductivity-cooling.html

Superconductivity without cooling

Can you tell me what an amp made with super conductive materials sounds like or how about the sound of speaker cables made of superconductive material?

You can't and you don't know therefore you can't be certain Steve.


It would sound like any other cable because the resistance of any decent cable made of non-superconductive wire wouldn't be sufficient to cause any audible difference in the first place. And yes, I can say this for certain as I actually know what I'm talking about whereas you know nothing at all and can only regurgitate stuff you find on the Internet but have no understanding of.

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May 7, 2015 at 5:02 PM Post #28 of 29
That kind of behavior will get you booted around here. The admins don't have much of a sense of humor.


Yeah, I'm going to report him. He's just a regurgitating troll. At least analogsurviver can make an argument. Might not be a valid argument, but all this clown can do is post links off the Internet. I don't think he's capable of speaking with his own words.

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May 7, 2015 at 6:44 PM Post #29 of 29
I just went with block. the few times I tried to explain to you where you were mistaken on a few topics, you didn't even try to understand and just escaped onto another subject like a lizard let lose off his tail to run free.
you say: all apples are yellow
we answer: it's not right and show apples of other colors
you say: no but lemons are yellow, try to prove it's wrong
we answer: some lemons are green
you say: my point is everything is yellow, proof is that picture of a banana.
 
this was only fun for a very short time.
 

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