Windows 8...

[daigo]

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Windows 8 is a disaster for corporate IT. Good grief, just switching from Office 2003 to 2007/2010 almost sent our users into apoplexy. Removing the desktop will send them into catatonia. I've got users that can't handle it if I change the name of folder on a network share drive or the name of the network printer. I am furious at Microsoft for doing this to the IT industry. They gave us NO transition path to allow us to deploy new Win 8 workstations without Metro. They don't seem to care that corporate IT still needs to install and maintain crappy old applications like Oracle eBusiness Suite (Java based and no significant upgrades in 3+ years), client-server based apps that are one step-up from green screens, and custom apps built 8 years ago using Java or Visual C++. IT budgets are tighter than ever and we have ZERO resources to keep up with the feature wars between Microsoft, Google, Oracle, Salesforce.com, SAP, Citrix, vmWare, and every 2nd & 3rd tier SW vendor - it is simply insane.

 
Our IT guys were thankful that we've stuck with win7 when 8 came out.  They offer similar experiences when they swapped all of us over from Office 2003 to 2007, no matter how much tutorial information provided at the same time.  
 
After years of using Windows, I've decided to treat the initial release as a giant beta test for any new OS from Microsoft, and will only install an OS on my home computers after Microsoft releases their SP1 for it.  

 

[J.Pocalypse]

I've found that my couple year old netbook runs smoother/faster with Windows 8.

Sure, getting to all your programs now takes 2 clicks vs just one, but getting to a desktop environment everyone's use to takes just one click.

So much more effort required. What is a person sitting on their butt for 8 hours a day to do.

 

[JuanseAmador]

If you are a tech guy you'll hate it! (probably)

It feels like a separate experience, nothing like Aero. I'll stick to Windows 7.

But... it is actually better for gaming since it uses less resources.

 

[gopanthersgo1]

If you are a tech guy you'll hate it! (probably)

It feels like a separate experience, nothing like Aero. I'll stick to Windows 7.

But... it is actually better for gaming since it uses less resources.

I like it due to being more minimalist... :rolleyes:
I didn't like Aeros "Rounded" look at all... (I am a tech savvy dude BTW, to each their own. )

 

[JuanseAmador]

If you are a tech guy you'll hate it! (probably)

It feels like a separate experience, nothing like Aero. I'll stick to Windows 7.

But... it is actually better for gaming since it uses less resources.

I like it due to being more minimalist... :rolleyes:
I didn't like Aeros "Rounded" look at all... (I am a tech savvy dude BTW, to each their own. )

I like the look. It's the navigation what bugs me. And the separation of the desktop and the start menu.

Take a look at this and you'll see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0fsyb-ttcw

 

[nothing4me]

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I like the look. It's the navigation what bugs me. And the separation of the desktop and the start menu.

Take a look at this and you'll see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0fsyb-ttcw

I just feel like it's so much easier to know where my programs are and I can organize it much better. Take a look at your phone. Do you find your apps by looking at the name of the program or the icon?

 

[Tangster]

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I just feel like it's so much easier to know where my programs are and I can organize it much better. Take a look at your phone. Do you find your apps by looking at the name of the program or the icon?

Name for me. Sorting via icon...not gonna happen for me. My searching hasn't changed from Win 7, win key + search.

 

[laon]

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I've found that my couple year old netbook runs smoother/faster with Windows 8.

Sure, getting to all your programs now takes 2 clicks vs just one, but getting to a desktop environment everyone's use to takes just one click.

So much more effort required. What is a person sitting on their butt for 8 hours a day to do.
 

And then you're forced to use that garbage nonsense of a oversized UI on your 30" monitor every so often becaue MS think that all desktop and laptop are soooo last century, or not, they just want to force feed you their walled garden version. Utter nonsense.
 
Oh and if you reinstall windows 7 and take care not to install any bloatware it'll run just as fast as 8.

 

[Tangster]

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And then you're forced to use that garbage nonsense of a oversized UI on your 30" monitor every so often because MS think that all desktop and laptop are soooo last century, or not, they just want to force feed you their walled garden version. Utter nonsense.
 
Oh and if you reinstall windows 7 and take care not to install any bloatware it'll run just as fast as 8.

How are you "forced" to use the metro UI? Do you really spend time slowly browsing tiles or using the extremely limited selection of "apps"? Nonetheless, Windows 8.1 will give you your precious start menu back.
 
Sometimes I feel people hate on Windows 8 because "all the cool kids are doing it".

 

[laon]

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How are you "forced" to use the metro UI? Do you really spend time slowly browsing tiles or using the extremely limited selection of "apps"? Nonetheless, Windows 8.1 will give you your precious start menu back.
 
Sometimes I feel people hate on Windows 8 because "all the cool kids are doing it".

 
8.1 give you start button, which boot you straight up to, guess what, Metro.
 
I'm avoiding Metro as much as I can but sometimes I have to go inside it to do something that MS in its infinite wisdom put it there. Playing cat and mouse is not something I expect to do on a new OS, you can keep it.
 
Oh and keep up the haters gonna hate mantra, you're doing good to its sale.

 

[duncan1]

Windows 8.1 will not "bring back the start menu"-AS IT IS IN WIN 7 -its just a sop to the many complaints round the  World about win 8. To say I hate it would be an underestimation of my dislike for it. Dont think so?? Then why is "big business" not "upgrading" to it -How many businesses [major] are using it? We are told that sales of PCs are falling Worldwide and yet they wont own up to Win 8 being a large part of it. No Microsoft have made up their mind to force people onto accepting Win 8 and if you read the latest PCs mags and read online you will see I am speaking the truth.   

 

[J.Pocalypse]

Part of me thinks that big companies aren't upgrading to W8 because their monitors aren't touch sensitive nor do they want to give their employees the added distraction of the start screen.

I tried out W8 on my laptop and actually enjoyed it. Its rather nice to look at, IMO, but since Asus doesn't offer a few basic drivers/programs that I'd need for my specific machine to run with its built in options, I had to say hello again to W7.

 

[Exediron]

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... because their monitors aren't touch sensitive...

 
Maybe that's because touch sensitive desktop monitors is a silly idea that should be quickly put back in the ground where it belongs?

 
Oh, and there's an easy cure for Windows 7 using your resources for gaming - add a little bit more memory and the problem pretty much goes away. I tried Windows 8 once, and the hideous nature of its interface never goes away.

 

[J.Pocalypse]

Maybe that's because touch sensitive desktop monitors is a silly idea that should be quickly put back in the ground where it belongs? :rolleyes:

Agreed. I want defending anyone. Just saying..

 

[billybob_jcv]

Corporate IT isn't using Windows 8 because we know that 95% of our users would be completely unable to do ANYTHING in Windows 8. You honestly cannot appreciate the situation until you spend a week on a typical corporate IT helpdesk. For gawd's sake, if the user accidentally drags a desktop icon so they can't see it, they scream that "something has deleted all my programs!" They will then email their entire department, their VP and the head of IT (me) complaining of "computer problems AGAIN!" When we implemented a group policy to force requiring a password on the screen saver after a 15 minute time out, we were flooded with calls by people that did not know their network password. For several months they had just been walking away from their workstations at the end of the day and had never rebooted, or even logged out of windows. Some of the workstations needed 80+ patches when they were rebooted. When we finally implement a policy for a 90 day password change, the users are going to have kittens. If I rolled Windows 8 out to my users, the company would come to a grinding halt.