Coax out from the Pro even into my budget iFi ZEN One dac, is superior to my ears.
Shouldn't the sound quality of the Mini and the Pro sound the same using optical/coax...the only difference being the nice ethernet option on the Pro (and of course the ability to use nice RCA for an analog run)? Have you compared them both digitally connected to your Zen?
I tried that too but and it also had issues I just can't remember exactly what they were.. I'll have to try again. I have to keep in mind I have one of the best DACs available in the 205 so all I need is something to utilize it. Obviously Roon is superior (and connects directly to my Oppo seamlessly) but it's hard to justify another cost for streaming service on top of what you already have. And it very frustratingly doesn't support my meticulously compiled SACD image files... unlike J River. But, on the flip side, they frustratingly steadfastly refuse to do any streamer (Qobuz) integration. So I'm in a diabolical loop
Coax out from the Pro even into my budget iFi ZEN One dac, is superior to my ears.
Shouldn't the sound quality of the Mini and the Pro sound the same using optical/coax...the only difference being the nice ethernet option on the Pro (and of course the ability to use nice RCA for an analog run)? Have you compared them both digitally connected to your Zen?
If you use the same (external) DAC with both, then no, there absolutely should NOT be a difference in sound. (unless the Apple Thing applies some DSP before sending out the digital signal)
If you use the internal DAC in the WiiM, then you might be able to hear the noise floor in quiet passages when listening at very high volumes.
did he say somewhere that he wants to use Apple Music?
He said he was currently streaming from an Apple TV, no?
(I've never had an Apple TV so I don't know if it's limited to Apple music or can use Spotify and others)
And did he say he's using an iPhone?
Because Chromecast from an Android device would work fine with Apple Music..
and if he's not using apple music nor an iPhone, then all would be fine, right?
did he say somewhere that he wants to use Apple Music?
He said he was currently streaming from an Apple TV, no?
(I've never had an Apple TV so I don't know if it's limited to Apple music or can use Spotify and others)
And did he say he's using an iPhone?
Because Chromecast from an Android device would work fine with Apple Music..
and if he's not using apple music nor an iPhone, then all would be fine, right?
Arguably -- short of plugging one's iPhone into the audio system -- one of the Android-based streamers (e.g., FiiO R7) will provide the best fidelity and user experience available. But while I'm an Apple Music subscriber, I don't have one of these, nor can I recommend it without very mixed feelings. Mainly because both solutions I'm aware of are using customized obsolete versions of Android, so their life expectancy is probably quite limited (i.e., if the OEMs won't be continually supporting the platforms with frequent bug fixes and closing security exposures, which can't be predicted). Apple could make a concerted effort to compete with Spotify and Amazon by -- among other things -- offering an Apple Music Connect functionality, but for reasons known only to them, so far they haven't done so. So people who like both Apple Music and high-quality, bit-perfect music rendering are in a tough spot.
Pulled a bunch of stuff out of storage / other rooms to do some comparisons.
Setup 1 - Wiim Mini ->Rega Dac ->Cavali Tube Hybrid
Setup 2 - Sonore Ultrarendu (Keces P8 Linear power) ->RME ADI-2 FS (Keces P8 Linear power) ->Topping A70 Pro
Setup 3 - Wiim Pro Plus -> Liquid Platinum
Rotating ZMF Verite Closed, Focal Elear (Dekoni pads), and Focal Utopia 2016 and streaming Qobuz from Roon and Wiim Home.
Observations so far:
Wiim Pro Plus dac is awesome for the price. Both Wiim devices are incredible value and the app to control them is the best I've seen. Just need the Pro Plus to get Roon endpoint support and I'll be all set.
Sound doesn't scale with cost:
I can't tell a difference between sound quality of Wiim and Ultrarendu; both sound great, but Ultrarendu was ~$600 or so years ago when I got it and it only does Roon.
I do rate Setup 2 as the best sounding with all my headphones, but the difference is much smaller than expected.
I enjoy the ~$250 Cavali Tube Hybrid over the ~$600 Liquid Platinum.
I got the Rega DAC many years ago as a demo unit from a local shop for about $300...best audio expenditure ever.
ZMF bass is too....bloomy? I'm not good at describing audio, but I've tried several amp/dac combinations and it's not working for me anymore. Pad swap might help. I've tried a few Roon EQ settings, but that's only messed it up so far.
Elear sounds amazing. I put a 3 db adjustment around 6k in Roon EQ, and I may actually like it more than the Utopia
Anyone using EQ on the Mini? It seems a bit wonky, and sometimes it forgets changes I've recently made, and jumps back to a previous setting. Anyone else tried that?
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