Why so many people hate Radiohead?

Jul 9, 2006 at 5:44 PM Post #61 of 81
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Originally Posted by taoster
I'd suggest you try listening to it again, and again until you think differently.

Listening to anything once hardly warrants an opinion.
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That is exactly what I did with Radiohead. I listened to it until my opnion changed. At first I didn't like OK Computer at all. After several listens over a couple of weeks time, I decided that I HATE that album.
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Jul 9, 2006 at 9:13 PM Post #62 of 81
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Originally Posted by Aman
This is another problem I have with Radiohead: Their fans.

You completely bastardized my point. In fact, you completely missed my claim that their lack of dynamics is the exact opposite of innovative. This is nothing new. Even "drone" songs have hooks. Boris and Sunn 0))) are good examples. If you're such a proclaimed fan of Radiohead, you should check these guys out immediately. These guys are the true innovators. They simply make you wonder "What the hell are they doing?" Their music stretches the boundaries of music theory. They simply throw all order out the window. Radiohead is too electronic. They are hardly doing any of the work - they are simply letting one note hold for a lengthy amount of time. Sunn 0))) layers and layers and layers until you are simply wide-eyed and speechless. You'd never imagine such evil and power could be put into a simple chord layer. Radiohead continues to believe that crooning a few words out here and there, and constructing a simple sonic landscape in the background, will be meaningful. But it's really just lazy. If they were better musicians, they'd figure out a better way to get across their so-called "message".



Voilà! Here it is. It was bound to show up. It always does. It's so predicable: The "let me point out who the true innovators are post" (This brand of spouting off, without any acknowledgment of opinion, is certainly not limited to Radiohead threads).

If I had a nickel for every.....
I want my damn nickels!
 
Jul 9, 2006 at 9:31 PM Post #63 of 81
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Originally Posted by ojnihs
Couldn't agree more. After being here for quite a while, I've noticed more and more recently that people can't take other people's opinions for what they are: opinions. It ends up creating these long threads of people bickering back and forth about why each and every one of the opinions in the thread is wrong. It's one of the reasons that I don't come around here very much anymore, as well with the fact that there is an ever increasing number of inane posts.


...and thats exactly why I skipped the bickering-back-part
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Cheers
Klaus
 
Jul 9, 2006 at 11:27 PM Post #64 of 81
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Originally Posted by Mr.PD
That is exactly what I did with Radiohead. I listened to it until my opnion changed. At first I didn't like OK Computer at all. After several listens over a couple of weeks time, I decided that I HATE that album.
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My experience exactly. Pretentious drivel with a whiney inaudible lead singer. Not for me at all, and I pride myself on being open minded about all forms of musical expression. My tastes are not limited to any particular genres, and I'm forever trying to expand my musical horizons. But sometimes what others like doesn't work for me. Oh well...
 
Jul 10, 2006 at 12:05 AM Post #65 of 81
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Beethoven wrote 'memorable melodies'.


chadbang,
actually a common criticism of beethoven is he never wrote a melody. i can see what they are saying, even if it is not strictly true.
 
Jul 10, 2006 at 5:04 AM Post #67 of 81
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Originally Posted by taoster
don't get it.

maybe this is more your flavour 2+2=5



Taoster

Thanks for the cover, that was good

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Jul 10, 2006 at 12:40 PM Post #68 of 81
Anyone care to explain fitter happier to me.
I've listened to 'OK computer' several times, it does nothing for me. But tastes differ so who am I to judge? Yet 'fitter happier' ????
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Jul 10, 2006 at 2:17 PM Post #69 of 81
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Originally Posted by Lisa
Anyone care to explain fitter happier to me.
I've listened to 'OK computer' several times, it does nothing for me. But tastes differ so who am I to judge? Yet 'fitter happier' ????
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I guess they wanted to do some kind of interlude, to separate the record in two parts. Personally I like this kind of things or experiments in an album, it's kind of like a pause between two sets of "normal" songs. A bit like the instrumentals in Depeche Mode records.

I'm not sure this one fits that particular album though. I'd say it is more appropriate on the documentary "meeting people is easy" which is also experimental in some way.
 
Jul 10, 2006 at 4:21 PM Post #71 of 81
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Originally Posted by Samgotit
The "let me point out who the true innovators are post".

If I had a nickel for every.....
I want my damn nickels!



Sunn O))) and Boris are the Drone innovators ....
 
Jul 10, 2006 at 5:00 PM Post #72 of 81
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Originally Posted by nothing111
I guess they wanted to do some kind of interlude, to separate the record in two parts. Personally I like this kind of things or experiments in an album, it's kind of like a pause between two sets of "normal" songs. A bit like the instrumentals in Depeche Mode records.

I'm not sure this one fits that particular album though. I'd say it is more appropriate on the documentary "meeting people is easy" which is also experimental in some way.



I did a google search, they said it was something they did as an intro in a show or something. And I guess that if you like it, a lot of people would, so why not put it on the album.
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Jul 10, 2006 at 5:37 PM Post #73 of 81
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Originally Posted by Enverxis
Sunn O))) and Boris are the Drone innovators ....


Earth, Main, Loop, Bardo Pond.......... ?

-jar
 
Jul 11, 2006 at 1:16 AM Post #74 of 81
Well Drone music traces as far back as the 1960's, however it would be fair to say that the most recent innovators are indeed Sunn O))) and Boris, who expanded from the original drone-doom in Earth, and Radiohead in relation is not a drone innovator because of these and the bands you have mentioned, particularly Bardo Pond (in relation to the similar genre)
 
Jul 11, 2006 at 2:39 AM Post #75 of 81
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Originally Posted by Enverxis
Well Drone music traces as far back as the 1960's, however it would be fair to say that the most recent innovators are indeed Sunn O))) and Boris, who expanded from the original drone-doom in Earth, and Radiohead in relation is not a drone innovator because of these and the bands you have mentioned, particularly Bardo Pond (in relation to the similar genre)


To stay off-topic, I think the best contemporary drone is from Kawabata Makoto (of Acid Mothers Temple, http://www.vhfrecords.com/catalog/51.htm), Pelt (http://www.vhfrecords.com/catalog/43.htm),
sunroof (http://www.vhfrecords.com/catalog/60.htm), Skullflower (http://www.vhfrecords.com/catalog/23.htm), and Vibracathedral Orchestra (http://www.vhfrecords.com/catalog/77.htm).
 

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