If you want the last 10% of technical performance buy a Utopia or Susvara if not just stay with the Senns. Don't mess around with those 1k headphone wannabe upgrades.
Why can't I find a headphone that will finally replace my 6xx.
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This is starting to piss me off. I bought...
Beyers 1770x GO
Argons
ZMF Aeolus
Hifiman Drop XX
All all them bleh hold nothing to the 6xx which can sound exceptionally clear, be very compfortable to wear, and produce a good thumping (yet slightly lacking) bass. All just with a portable Xduoo XD05Balanced + a phone with Viper4Android. Off topic but.. I am surpised I dont see V4A mentioned here more often this little module alone worth more than all my amps combined.
But back to topic. Can someone please suggest something for me there? I am about to buy a Susvara... Im not thinking straight anymore. I swear to god ill drop that 6k faster than I threw those muffled argons straight into the couch cushions in disgust. Included is a pic of the non portable setup I have which I never use. Sad. Any suggestions would be greatly and deeply appreciated.
Cheers.
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It sounds like you found the endgame headphone for you, I personally suggest simply sticking with the HD 650 and not worry about other headphones unless you may want a different sound signature to compliment them. I wouldn't worry about trying to find a replacement/upgrade to them.
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Thank you. You convinced me to try them. I recently got the LCD-X but after a day of listening im returning them. Honestly even with good eq wizardry they sound identical to my hd6xx but with a lot less bass.
Oh good - one thing I will say is the 800S take a few moments to reveal their party trick(s) (at least for me). When I first heard them, I tried to understand all they had to offer but it has taken several hundred songs for me to appreciate all of the capability these 'phones have...
Happy listening

p.s. - some song recommendations to get you started:
- Feel [feat. Lianne La Havas] by Jacob Collier
- Your Power by Billie Eilish
- Resynthesis 3D by Max Cooper (this one will show you the soundstage)
HBen
500+ Head-Fier
This is starting to piss me off. I bought...
Beyers 1770x GO
Argons
ZMF Aeolus
Hifiman Drop XX
All all them bleh hold nothing to the 6xx which can sound exceptionally clear, be very compfortable to wear, and produce a good thumping (yet slightly lacking) bass. All just with a portable Xduoo XD05Balanced + a phone with Viper4Android. Off topic but.. I am surpised I dont see V4A mentioned here more often this little module alone worth more than all my amps combined.
But back to topic. Can someone please suggest something for me there? I am about to buy a Susvara... Im not thinking straight anymore. I swear to god ill drop that 6k faster than I threw those muffled argons straight into the couch cushions in disgust. Included is a pic of the non portable setup I have which I never use. Sad. Any suggestions would be greatly and deeply appreciated.
Cheers.
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From what I can tell it's actually quite simple - no need to get angry

- If money is no factor to consider: just continue to buy new headphones blind and "try and error" until you find one you like better - at some point you will eventually find one and if not it might still be an interesting journey. There are lots of options - a TOTL STAX or any other Electrostat, some Abyss headphone, the Susvara - all headphones I can recommend.
- If money is a factor to consider: find ways to test the headphones before you buy them - for example test them in a shop. If the next suitable shop is far away combine the visit with a city trip for example.
- Middle way: Buy used headphones and sell them again if you don't like them.
- What doesn't work well: Buying headphones depending on other people's recommendation. We just hear all to different, have different preferences, different gear that causes different synergy etc. etc.
Best of luck

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Yes this is basically what my mindset has become. And its not like im keeping them all, I plan on getting around to telling them... any day now... But they do look all nice lined up on their headphone racks...From what I can tell it's actually quite simple - no need to get angry
- If money is no factor to consider: just continue to buy new headphones blind and "try and error" until you find one you like better - at some point you will eventually find one and if not it might still be an interesting journey. There are lots of options - a TOTL STAX or any other Electrostat, some Abyss headphone, the Susvara - all headphones I can recommend.
- If money is a factor to consider: find ways to test the headphones before you buy them - for example test them in a shop. If the next suitable shop is far away combine the visit with a city trip for example.
- Middle way: Buy used headphones and sell them again if you don't like them.
- What doesn't work well: Buying headphones depending on other people's recommendation. We just hear all to different, have different preferences, different gear that causes different synergy etc. etc.
Best of luck![]()

Thanks Nate, ill check those song out. I have delayed my 800S purchase as this amazon sale for 300 bucks off randomly dissapeared as I was about to get them. And somehow afterwards I managed to convince myself to buy a pair of 2000 dollar IEMS.. maybe just out of sheer curiosity. Ill let you know what a pair of 2k earbuds sound like haha. Feels so silly paying that much for a cellphone accessory.Oh good - one thing I will say is the 800S take a few moments to reveal their party trick(s) (at least for me). When I first heard them, I tried to understand all they had to offer but it has taken several hundred songs for me to appreciate all of the capability these 'phones have...
Happy listening
p.s. - some song recommendations to get you started:
- Feel [feat. Lianne La Havas] by Jacob Collier
- Your Power by Billie Eilish
- Resynthesis 3D by Max Cooper (this one will show you the soundstage)
I'm basically in the same position as you're in right now.
I have a HD580 which I deeply enjoy listening to... but then there are times where I dream of deeper bass extension and a larger soundstage.
It is at these moments (of weakness?) that I go online and do the same running around in circles as the many times before.
Talking to myself along the lines of "No, I don't want the Beyer peek, been there, done that"
"I want build quality and replaceable parts, so brand X or Y is out of the equation" and "I don't want to sell my firstborn for a freakin headphone".
So yes, highly relatable post and I think alot of folks here are right in pointing out that we may very well just be happy with what we got. Accept it and move on (to greater things?). I mean, I suppose it would be a tad ironic to write that life's too short to be chasing headphones on this here website, but really; If you're done, you're done.
EDIT: we're not quite in the same position though, as I'm in the process of scaling down. Just sold a €400 headphone amp, as I found that I am content with the headphone-output of a 70's vintage receiver I inherited from my dad. Also, I cannot for the life of me imagine spending 2K on earbuds :')
I have a HD580 which I deeply enjoy listening to... but then there are times where I dream of deeper bass extension and a larger soundstage.
It is at these moments (of weakness?) that I go online and do the same running around in circles as the many times before.
Talking to myself along the lines of "No, I don't want the Beyer peek, been there, done that"
"I want build quality and replaceable parts, so brand X or Y is out of the equation" and "I don't want to sell my firstborn for a freakin headphone".
So yes, highly relatable post and I think alot of folks here are right in pointing out that we may very well just be happy with what we got. Accept it and move on (to greater things?). I mean, I suppose it would be a tad ironic to write that life's too short to be chasing headphones on this here website, but really; If you're done, you're done.
EDIT: we're not quite in the same position though, as I'm in the process of scaling down. Just sold a €400 headphone amp, as I found that I am content with the headphone-output of a 70's vintage receiver I inherited from my dad. Also, I cannot for the life of me imagine spending 2K on earbuds :')
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Headphoneus Supremus
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/tsav’s-sennheiser-b-stock-sale-amazing-prices.960253/Thanks Nate, ill check those song out. I have delayed my 800S purchase as this amazon sale for 300 bucks off randomly dissapeared as I was about to get them. And somehow afterwards I managed to convince myself to buy a pair of 2000 dollar IEMS.. maybe just out of sheer curiosity. Ill let you know what a pair of 2k earbuds sound like haha. Feels so silly paying that much for a cellphone accessory.

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