What's the best USB audio cable for the money?

Apr 25, 2025 at 4:16 PM Post #2,011 of 2,046
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Apr 25, 2025 at 4:59 PM Post #2,012 of 2,046
Can anyone recommend a USB-A to USB-C cable for less than ~$150 USD?

***Also, and this may be a dumb question, but are most created-for-audio USB cables designed to be "directional"? e.g. one end of the cable is meant to be the DAC side and the other the source side

I'm doing some homework on this as I am at least mulling over a future DAC change wherein the assumed DAC-side input will be USB-C and the source side, for now at least, is USB-A (my current setup: Macbook Pro (external HD stored music library) USB-C > USB-B input of Altor Isolator > USB-A output of Altor to USB-B input of DAC)

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Also, for those curious, I have found the Altor to be a reliable device in the month or so of use. I use a cheap'ish (~$70 out of pocket from AE) LHY Audio 5v LPS (I honestly cannot discern audible differences between using the Altor USB bus powered from my Macbook Pro and using the LPS, but this way, I don't have to wonder; maybe I could if I bought a super nice LPS for $300, but I'm not doing that for this setup).

I can discern slight differences with the Altor in the chain, but I am extremely reluctant to say much on this front because I also have two new USB cables in the mix (I had to get new cables to use the Altor because the Macbook Pro has only USB-C ports & I didn't even own a -A to -B cable, nor did I own a "quality" -C to -B cable, before this experiment w/ the Altor) so I'm not postive to which I can assign any sonic changes.
The Supra usb c is in your budget, and I really recommend them. Im Norwegian living in Sweden, and i love the Supra because their solid, affordable and based on science...
 
Apr 25, 2025 at 5:44 PM Post #2,013 of 2,046
Hi,
Which kind of music will you consider the most suitable for the GT2 NCF ?
Thanks !
Alright, I have now conducted tests to get to the bottom of the Furutech GT2 NCF sound. Ie, to answer the question of what music they're good at, and where they're weak.

All tests were conducted with HD 800. I have listed most of the songs tested, categorized as Satisfying or Disappointing. For the Disappointing tracks I re-tested several times with different cables, which became fairly time consuming. But I wanted proper answers, and sometimes when I conducted comparisons my impression swapped to a more positive one. For most of these I tried every song on the album. Sometimes only for 20-30 seconds, sometimes for several minutes or entire tracks. I spent extra time when my impression was negative.

Satisfying
9mm Parabellum Bullet - Babel
9mm Parabellum Bullet - Dawning
9mm Parabellum Bullet - Deep Blue
Acoustic Asturias - Bird Eyes View
Acoustic Asturias - Marching Grass On The Hill
Adrenaline Mob - Omerta
agraph - A Day, Phases
agraph - equal
agraph - the shader
Akira Kosemura - Tiny Musical
Akira Yamaoka - Silent Hill 3
Alyssa Milano - Look in My Heart
Amon Tobin - Bricolage
Amon Tobin - Permutation
Amon Tobin - Splinter Cell 3: Chaos Theory (an incredibly good match with GT2 NCF)
Amon Tobin - Supermodified
Anvil - Metal On Metal
Anvil - This is Thirteen
Apocalyptica - Apocalyptica
Apocalyptica - Worlds Collide
ARTMS - <Dall>
ARTMS - <K>
ARTMS - Odd eye Circle
Ayreon - The Human Equation (superb match! Really elevates the album)
Blackpink - Square One
Blackpink - Square Up
Blu-Swing - Flash
Blu-Swing - Panorama
Blu-Swing - Secret of Attraction
Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children
Body Count - Bloodlust
Body Count - Manslaughter
Camellia - Crystallized
Camo & Krooked - Red Bull Symphonic (could do with more bass)
Capsule - Fruits Clipper
Capsule - Metro Pulse
Capsule - Wave Runner
Casiopea - Mint Jams
Charlie Winston - Passport
Charlie Winston - Running Still
Chihiro Yamanaka - Molto Cantabile
Chihiro Yamanaka - Prima Del Tramonto
Chihiro Yamanaka - Today Is Another Day
Daft Punk - Discovery
Daft Punk - Human After All
Daft Punk - Random Access Memories
Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons
Dream Theater - Awake
Dream Theater - Distance Over Time
Dream Theater - Images And Words
Dream Theater - Live At Budokan 2004
Dream Theater - Once In A Livetime 1998
Dream Theater - Scenes From A Memory
Dream Theater - Score 20th Anniversary Tour
Dream Theater - Train Of Thought
Dream Theater - When Dream And Day Unite
Eilert Pilarm - Best Of Elvis
Frank Zappa - Halloween (2003 DVD Audio)
Frank Zappa - Zappa In New York
Frank Zappa - Make A Jazz Noise Here
Galneryus - One For All, All For One
Hybrid - Disappear Here
Hybrid - Driveclub
Hybrid - Light Of The Fearless
Hybrid - Wider Angle
Initial D Selection 1
Iz*One - Bloom*IZ
Judas Priest - Painkiller
Kamelot - Karma
Kard - Hola Hola
Killswitch Engage - Incarnate
m-flo - Kyo
m-flo - Beat Space Nine
Michael Buble - Crazy Love
Michael Jackson - Bad
Mondo Grosso - Big World
Moonsorrow - V: Hävitetty
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
Pendulum - Immersion
Presence of soul - All Creation Mourns
Tool - Fear Inoculum
From Youtube:
BLUE NOTE TOKYO ALL-STAR JAZZ ORCHESTRA by ERIC MIYASHIRO with MONTY ALEXANDER ⧸ LOVE NOTES
BLUE NOTE TOKYO ALL-STAR JAZZ ORCHESTRA by ERIC MIYASHIRO with MONTY ALEXANDER ⧸ REGGAE LATER
BLUE NOTE TOKYO ALL-STAR JAZZ ORCHESTRA" ⧸ BLUE NOTE TOKYO
Ai Furusato "This Moment" BLUE NOTE PLACE
MAYU KISHIMA x TAKASHI MATSUNAGA from BLUE NOTE TOKYO
SIMON PHILLIPS "Protocol V" ⧸『The Long Road Home』 BLUE NOTE TOKYO Live 2024
Oliver Smith #ABGT250 Live at The Gorge Amphitheatre, Washington State (Full 4K Ultra HD Set)
MC MENTAL at his best

Disappointing
Akira Yamaoka - Silent Hill 2 (instruments sound too direct, not enough emphasis on reverb)
Amon Tobin - ISAM (needed just a tad more air, a bit more bass, too direct sounding)
Dream Theater - A View From The Top Of The World (sounds closed in compared to other cables)
Dream Theater - Black Clouds & Silver Linings (instruments sound excellent, vocals sound closed in & compressed almost)
Dream Theater - Dream Theater (again, excellent instrument sound, but the vocals sometimes sound off)
Dream Theater - Octavarium (strangely hard on the ears)
Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos (good sounding instruments, vocals very flat)

To conclude, the results felt all over the place, and not genre specific. I spent extra time on Dream Theater because my impression varied wildly depending on the album. It seems Furutech GT2 NCF will highlight bad mixing or attempts to cover up bad vocals with excessive processing. With other cables the reduced clarity and more airy presentation pushed mistakes further back, making the music nicer to listen to. The Furutech GT2 NCF handles the vast majority of music just fine. I was often pleasantly surprised by how listenable the songs were, even when mixed super loud with crashing cymbals dominating the sound. I think in most situations the Furutech GT2 NCF will do a great job, regardless of what you listen to. Unless you're obsessed with Dream Theaters Octavarium, because it was one of the worst sounding albums I tested.

EDIT: To adress other posts:
***Also, and this may be a dumb question, but are most created-for-audio USB cables designed to be "directional"? e.g. one end of the cable is meant to be the DAC side and the other the source side
If the cable was designed with direction in mind, then it'll have arrows or maybe just the direction of text and logos will hint at the intended direction.
The Supra usb c is in your budget, and I really recommend them. Im Norwegian living in Sweden, and i love the Supra because their solid, affordable and based on science...
What initially sold me on Supra when I bought their USB cables in 2012 was that they followed the USB spec. That basic minimum of "following the specification of the standard" is apparently super rare, especially among USB cables. If the cable has no stated impedance written in the specs, it's probably not following the USB standard. I can't find the article now, but one of the people who created the USB standard bought a pile of cables off Amazon and measured them, and they had huge error rates and were remarkably low quality and off spec. The reason the cables still "worked fine" is because of the error correction in Printers, HDDs etc when using the bulk transfer mode of USB. Even if the error rate is 40% it'll seemingly work fine because the data will be sent again and again until it's all there. For USB audio the data is streamed realtime with no retransmission in case of errors. That's why the cable quality suddenly matters a lot.

EDIT 2: I hadn't used the combination of 2x Oyaide Neo d+ Class S cables in a while, so this evening I gave the combo a try again. As I remembered, it's a sound with balls. If you listen primarily to rock, metal, or anything performed by a DJ, ie music prioritizing rhythm and excitement, then they're outstanding. Better than anything else I've tried actually, because their "flaw" is a feature for those genres. They give guitars real bite and a raw edge. They make you want to raise the volume louder. I think the 2x combo of these cables is best, with no mixing or matching, because you get a more coherent sound with the most excitement possible. I wouldn't call their sound beautiful, and with reference style recordings the soundstage isn't as convincing. But I see it as a huge positive if a cable evokes an involuntary emotional response. And with the 2x Oyaide Class S combo a different kind of stimulation happens than with Neub 1020 or GT2 NCF. You know how guitarists grimace with their faces to match the emotion of the riff they're playing? The Oyaide Class S combo makes me do that spontaneously. If you have no pretense of ever listening to unamplified music, then give them serious thought.
 
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Apr 28, 2025 at 8:39 PM Post #2,015 of 2,046
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Apr 28, 2025 at 8:49 PM Post #2,016 of 2,046
@Jake2 thanks for replying. I have no doubt that you meant well.

I am using two Gothic Audio Semper Fi .3 m cables.

I have a USB A - B running from the laptop to the Altor and a USB A - C running from the Altor to the DAC.

(I remember now that I can hold onto the USB A-B for the Laptop>Rane Performer, so not all is wasted.)

The light was on when the USB A - B ran to the Altor.

Then I plugged in the iFi Power [1] adapter and the light turned off from the Altor.

The USB A - C wire works when it runs from my laptop to the DAC 3.

Are you saying that I should buy another USB A - B cable and use an USB B - C adapter?

For what it's worth, this is what Chat GPT said in brief:
The chain doesn't work. Zen DAC 3 requires a host and not any other sort of output device in order to work.
 
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Apr 29, 2025 at 12:49 AM Post #2,017 of 2,046
I got my Altor T1. Mistake.

It doesn't work with Version 3 Zen DACs because it only works with USB-B inputs and the Zen DAC 3 is an USB-C input.

I'm not sure what to do with this tiny black box now and the Semper-Fi USB-A>USB-B cable.
Ill buy them from you
 
Apr 29, 2025 at 1:21 AM Post #2,018 of 2,046
@Slackaveli, hold on ... Alex from Altor says that USBISO is a host, so I'll let you know the next stage.

Edit: it's been a day and Alex and I have been sending emails back and forth. So far, we don't know what's wrong with the thing. @Slackaveli I would want to sell you a lemon but if it does work I would want to keep it .. I'll keep updating this post to let you know more.

MORE:

With Alex's help, I was able to figure out what I needed for the USBISO to work on my laptop/DAC chain.


In brief, he instructed me to attach a mouse to the USBISO. The light on the mouse turned on, but data wasn't running between the mouse and the laptop. I tried another laptop and it worked. I reinstalled windows (keeping old data) which caused the chain to link.


As for the sound ... my impression of the sound that I am hearing now is not only due to the addition of the USBISO but a change of firmware for my DAC.

Hearing bass heavy dark ambient techno (Plastikman - Consumed) and early bass shaking drum n bass (Renegade - Terrorist (PA Mix) and (Grooverider Hardstep Mix)) all I can say is the bass is even more deep or rumbly.

The micro details more refined, not harsh, detailed, balanced, present.

The details are structured in a way that they don't conflict with one other. The details work as a whole, everything is more smooth, but not smeary or runny — no harsh edges, no bleeding into each other — I guess you could say the presentation sounds cinematic, like being in a movie theater. Immersive. Not just listening.

The music vies for attention, I've become more aware of the producer's presentation inside the sound.

Keeping!
 
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Apr 30, 2025 at 11:54 PM Post #2,019 of 2,046
Recently bought an Obsidian² USB-C cable from Darren at Arctand Labs. The Obsidian is the introductory tier. Not to glaze this cable too much, but in short, performance and quality is outstanding.

The Obsidian cable is very beefy. The 6N OCC copper wires are double shielded and the data and power lines are separate. Going against the DDHifi TC09, the Obsidian is transparent (adding no coloring, possibly just a hint of warmth) and has a much more defined sound stage.

I've talked to a few cable makers and they mentioned DDHifi TC09 does make the frequency response slightly brighter.

I'd be very interested to try their flagship Celestine when I visit Singapore over Summer.

Some comparison pics with DDHifi TC09S. Obsidian is more than triple the thickness!
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May 1, 2025 at 2:24 AM Post #2,020 of 2,046
oh, that is a thick girl. A contender, I'd say. They look like pros over there for sure; I'm actually surprised they havent come up in here. The Ruby looks interesting too but is quite pricey.
 
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May 1, 2025 at 4:05 AM Post #2,021 of 2,046
Alright, I have now conducted tests to get to the bottom of the Furutech GT2 NCF sound. Ie, to answer the question of what music they're good at, and where they're weak.

All tests were conducted with HD 800. I have listed most of the songs tested, categorized as Satisfying or Disappointing. For the Disappointing tracks I re-tested several times with different cables, which became fairly time consuming. But I wanted proper answers, and sometimes when I conducted comparisons my impression swapped to a more positive one. For most of these I tried every song on the album. Sometimes only for 20-30 seconds, sometimes for several minutes or entire tracks. I spent extra time when my impression was negative.

Satisfying
9mm Parabellum Bullet - Babel
9mm Parabellum Bullet - Dawning
9mm Parabellum Bullet - Deep Blue
Acoustic Asturias - Bird Eyes View
Acoustic Asturias - Marching Grass On The Hill
Adrenaline Mob - Omerta
agraph - A Day, Phases
agraph - equal
agraph - the shader
Akira Kosemura - Tiny Musical
Akira Yamaoka - Silent Hill 3
Alyssa Milano - Look in My Heart
Amon Tobin - Bricolage
Amon Tobin - Permutation
Amon Tobin - Splinter Cell 3: Chaos Theory (an incredibly good match with GT2 NCF)
Amon Tobin - Supermodified
Anvil - Metal On Metal
Anvil - This is Thirteen
Apocalyptica - Apocalyptica
Apocalyptica - Worlds Collide
ARTMS - <Dall>
ARTMS - <K>
ARTMS - Odd eye Circle
Ayreon - The Human Equation (superb match! Really elevates the album)
Blackpink - Square One
Blackpink - Square Up
Blu-Swing - Flash
Blu-Swing - Panorama
Blu-Swing - Secret of Attraction
Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children
Body Count - Bloodlust
Body Count - Manslaughter
Camellia - Crystallized
Camo & Krooked - Red Bull Symphonic (could do with more bass)
Capsule - Fruits Clipper
Capsule - Metro Pulse
Capsule - Wave Runner
Casiopea - Mint Jams
Charlie Winston - Passport
Charlie Winston - Running Still
Chihiro Yamanaka - Molto Cantabile
Chihiro Yamanaka - Prima Del Tramonto
Chihiro Yamanaka - Today Is Another Day
Daft Punk - Discovery
Daft Punk - Human After All
Daft Punk - Random Access Memories
Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons
Dream Theater - Awake
Dream Theater - Distance Over Time
Dream Theater - Images And Words
Dream Theater - Live At Budokan 2004
Dream Theater - Once In A Livetime 1998
Dream Theater - Scenes From A Memory
Dream Theater - Score 20th Anniversary Tour
Dream Theater - Train Of Thought
Dream Theater - When Dream And Day Unite
Eilert Pilarm - Best Of Elvis
Frank Zappa - Halloween (2003 DVD Audio)
Frank Zappa - Zappa In New York
Frank Zappa - Make A Jazz Noise Here
Galneryus - One For All, All For One
Hybrid - Disappear Here
Hybrid - Driveclub
Hybrid - Light Of The Fearless
Hybrid - Wider Angle
Initial D Selection 1
Iz*One - Bloom*IZ
Judas Priest - Painkiller
Kamelot - Karma
Kard - Hola Hola
Killswitch Engage - Incarnate
m-flo - Kyo
m-flo - Beat Space Nine
Michael Buble - Crazy Love
Michael Jackson - Bad
Mondo Grosso - Big World
Moonsorrow - V: Hävitetty
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
Pendulum - Immersion
Presence of soul - All Creation Mourns
Tool - Fear Inoculum
From Youtube:
BLUE NOTE TOKYO ALL-STAR JAZZ ORCHESTRA by ERIC MIYASHIRO with MONTY ALEXANDER ⧸ LOVE NOTES
BLUE NOTE TOKYO ALL-STAR JAZZ ORCHESTRA by ERIC MIYASHIRO with MONTY ALEXANDER ⧸ REGGAE LATER
BLUE NOTE TOKYO ALL-STAR JAZZ ORCHESTRA" ⧸ BLUE NOTE TOKYO
Ai Furusato "This Moment" BLUE NOTE PLACE
MAYU KISHIMA x TAKASHI MATSUNAGA from BLUE NOTE TOKYO
SIMON PHILLIPS "Protocol V" ⧸『The Long Road Home』 BLUE NOTE TOKYO Live 2024
Oliver Smith #ABGT250 Live at The Gorge Amphitheatre, Washington State (Full 4K Ultra HD Set)
MC MENTAL at his best

Disappointing
Akira Yamaoka - Silent Hill 2 (instruments sound too direct, not enough emphasis on reverb)
Amon Tobin - ISAM (needed just a tad more air, a bit more bass, too direct sounding)
Dream Theater - A View From The Top Of The World (sounds closed in compared to other cables)
Dream Theater - Black Clouds & Silver Linings (instruments sound excellent, vocals sound closed in & compressed almost)
Dream Theater - Dream Theater (again, excellent instrument sound, but the vocals sometimes sound off)
Dream Theater - Octavarium (strangely hard on the ears)
Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos (good sounding instruments, vocals very flat)

To conclude, the results felt all over the place, and not genre specific. I spent extra time on Dream Theater because my impression varied wildly depending on the album. It seems Furutech GT2 NCF will highlight bad mixing or attempts to cover up bad vocals with excessive processing. With other cables the reduced clarity and more airy presentation pushed mistakes further back, making the music nicer to listen to. The Furutech GT2 NCF handles the vast majority of music just fine. I was often pleasantly surprised by how listenable the songs were, even when mixed super loud with crashing cymbals dominating the sound. I think in most situations the Furutech GT2 NCF will do a great job, regardless of what you listen to. Unless you're obsessed with Dream Theaters Octavarium, because it was one of the worst sounding albums I tested.

EDIT: To adress other posts:

If the cable was designed with direction in mind, then it'll have arrows or maybe just the direction of text and logos will hint at the intended direction.

What initially sold me on Supra when I bought their USB cables in 2012 was that they followed the USB spec. That basic minimum of "following the specification of the standard" is apparently super rare, especially among USB cables. If the cable has no stated impedance written in the specs, it's probably not following the USB standard. I can't find the article now, but one of the people who created the USB standard bought a pile of cables off Amazon and measured them, and they had huge error rates and were remarkably low quality and off spec. The reason the cables still "worked fine" is because of the error correction in Printers, HDDs etc when using the bulk transfer mode of USB. Even if the error rate is 40% it'll seemingly work fine because the data will be sent again and again until it's all there. For USB audio the data is streamed realtime with no retransmission in case of errors. That's why the cable quality suddenly matters a lot.

EDIT 2: I hadn't used the combination of 2x Oyaide Neo d+ Class S cables in a while, so this evening I gave the combo a try again. As I remembered, it's a sound with balls. If you listen primarily to rock, metal, or anything performed by a DJ, ie music prioritizing rhythm and excitement, then they're outstanding. Better than anything else I've tried actually, because their "flaw" is a feature for those genres. They give guitars real bite and a raw edge. They make you want to raise the volume louder. I think the 2x combo of these cables is best, with no mixing or matching, because you get a more coherent sound with the most excitement possible. I wouldn't call their sound beautiful, and with reference style recordings the soundstage isn't as convincing. But I see it as a huge positive if a cable evokes an involuntary emotional response. And with the 2x Oyaide Class S combo a different kind of stimulation happens than with Neub 1020 or GT2 NCF. You know how guitarists grimace with their faces to match the emotion of the riff they're playing? The Oyaide Class S combo makes me do that spontaneously. If you have no pretense of ever listening to unamplified music, then give them serious thought.
Very thorough and a great read. 👍

Any additional thoughts on the GT2 NCF after further ”break-in”?
 
May 1, 2025 at 6:31 AM Post #2,022 of 2,046
Recently bought an Obsidian² USB-C cable from Darren at Arctand Labs. The Obsidian is the introductory tier. Not to glaze this cable too much, but in short, performance and quality is outstanding.
I had a look at the Arctand Labs website, and all their cables look like sensible designs. Interesting how they give a +/- figure on how close they hit 90 ohm, with the more expensive cables tracking closer to a perfect 90 ohm. From what I saw browsing their stuff and looking closely at the specs and descriptions, you could probably buy anything from them and be happy with the results, because everything looked good.
Any additional thoughts on the GT2 NCF after further ”break-in”?
Not yet, but I'll have more to say later. I have been experimenting with swapping op amps in my amplifier and comparing my two USB isolators Singxer UIP-1 Pro vs iFi iUSB 3.0 Nano. All I can say is that certain combos work very nicely with GT2 NCF, whereas with other combos I prefer just using 2x Neub 1020. Comparing the USB isolators/ reclockers is especially interesting, because the Singxer feels more detailed, but the old iFi gives a more 3d spatial presentation. I have to test more, but the iFi somehow sounds a bit smoothed over like the processing is noise cancelling out fine details. But the collection of techniques it uses also effectively gives you a more vivid sound. Like I said, I have to do more careful testing to get a grip on what's actually happening when comparing the two.
 
May 1, 2025 at 12:33 PM Post #2,023 of 2,046
@Slackaveli, hold on ... Alex from Altor says that USBISO is a host, so I'll let you know the next stage.

Edit: it's been a day and Alex and I have been sending emails back and forth. So far, we don't know what's wrong with the thing. @Slackaveli I would want to sell you a lemon but if it does work I would want to keep it .. I'll keep updating this post to let you know more.

MORE:

With Alex's help, I was able to figure out what I needed for the USBISO to work on my laptop/DAC chain.


In brief, he instructed me to attach a mouse to the USBISO. The light on the mouse turned on, but data wasn't running between the mouse and the laptop. I tried another laptop and it worked. I reinstalled windows (keeping old data) which caused the chain to link.


As for the sound ... my impression of the sound that I am hearing now is not only due to the addition of the USBISO but a change of firmware for my DAC.

Hearing bass heavy dark ambient techno (Plastikman - Consumed) and early bass shaking drum n bass (Renegade - Terrorist (PA Mix) and (Grooverider Hardstep Mix)) all I can say is the bass is even more deep or rumbly.

The micro details more refined, not harsh, detailed, balanced, present.

The details are structured in a way that they don't conflict with one other. The details work as a whole, everything is more smooth, but not smeary or runny — no harsh edges, no bleeding into each other — I guess you could say the presentation sounds cinematic, like being in a movie theater. Immersive. Not just listening.

The music vies for attention, I've become more aware of the producer's presentation inside the sound.

Keeping!
Great to hear you got it working with Alex’s help and it brings a nice improvement to your system 👍🏻
 
May 1, 2025 at 2:15 PM Post #2,024 of 2,046
Not yet, but I'll have more to say later. I have been experimenting with swapping op amps in my amplifier and comparing my two USB isolators Singxer UIP-1 Pro vs iFi iUSB 3.0 Nano. All I can say is that certain combos work very nicely with GT2 NCF, whereas with other combos I prefer just using 2x Neub 1020. Comparing the USB isolators/ reclockers is especially interesting, because the Singxer feels more detailed, but the old iFi gives a more 3d spatial presentation. I have to test more, but the iFi somehow sounds a bit smoothed over like the processing is noise cancelling out fine details. But the collection of techniques it uses also effectively gives you a more vivid sound. Like I said, I have to do more careful testing to get a grip on what's actually happening when comparing the two.

The iFi would be a good frond end USB reclocker where if you follow it up with a beefy USB isolator/reclocker like PhoenixUSB for example, you will get most of the benefits of the iFi such as holographic soundstage, expanding the amount of rows in the stage but now you have a far more refined and focused sound that's coming out of the PhoenixUSB. This is just relating from my experience with the iFi micro iUSB 3.0 + Berkeley Audio Design Alpha USB series 2 DDC combo
 
May 1, 2025 at 2:26 PM Post #2,025 of 2,046
The iFi would be a good frond end USB reclocker where if you follow it up with a beefy USB isolator/reclocker like PhoenixUSB for example,
I was thinking about using both the iFi iUSB Nano and the Singxer UIP-1 Pro at the same time, as I do have enough power supplies, outlets and cables to do so. Now I'm extra motivated to do so after your comment.
 

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