What is your experience with Reddit Headphones vs Head-FI in terms of discussion.

[F208Frank]

I actually knew of this community for a while but was lazy and never signed up for it. I always floated around Reddit and here once in a while, but once I got a little more involved in my upgrading processes, I registered here and never looked back.

Oh and attending CanJam in person was the final push that led me to register. (for whatever reason)

 

[Lulu801]

Reviving this thread to give my experience. The place is crap I've hostilely been insulted because i prefer BA IEM's over DD ones. Because i like the clarity and get no driver flex issues that anger my right ear. The mods ignore problem users who never add anything to the topic, they got childish when i called that out but then again they are very rude to people who seek advice.

Also the whole community is ignorant so many say things they never put effort or thought on. Likes insisting on using lossy on mid tier & above gear that are savage on bad recordings. Not gonna lie i wonder how many there are poor school/college kids since the above £299 gear bashing is stupidly high there.

 

[crashnburn]

Question: if you're not an active member/participant/whatever of a particular subreddit, can you still participate/upvote/etc. within that subreddit? If so, that seems like it would just lead to the opinion that's easiest to comprehend to the uninformed mind becoming the most upvoted (and therefore "best") opinion. Seems like a good way for the uninformed to spread misinformation.
I think one it the benefits of Head-Fi is that it's a specialty website and people come here with that expectation and are more able to recognize expertise when they see it. I guess that's a long winded way of saying there aren't too many trolls here and that it's somewhat self regulating.

I never quite get the (reddit) Voting system in general, as its
- biased towards quantity of unqualified votes
versus
- quality of maybe more qualified ones.

 

[genck]

The reddit community clings to ASR and is like an Amir cult essentially, I want no part of that garbage

 

[crashnburn]

The reddit community clings to ASR and is like an Amir cult essentially, I want no part of that garbage

UNfamiliar with these. Do elaborate.

 

[genck]

UNfamiliar with these. Do elaborate.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php

 

[megabigeye]

I never quite get the (reddit) Voting system in general, as its
- biased towards quantity of unqualified votes
versus
- quality of maybe more qualified ones.

Every now and again somebody posts some bit of nonsense or misinformation here and I wish that there were a "dislike" button on Head-Fi... But then I think of Reddit and feel glad not to have it. The like button is nice because it's a quick way of approving of somebody's post without tying up the thread with "+1" posts. Not having a dislike button means you can't just disagree with somebody without also qualifying your disagreement. People are free to disagree with each other, of course, but you have to be prepared for the consequences if you do.

 

[Cruelhand Luke]

Every now and again somebody posts some bit of nonsense or misinformation here and I wish that there were a "dislike" button on Head-Fi... But then I think of Reddit and feel glad not to have it. The like button is nice because it's a quick way of approving of somebody's post without tying up the thread with "+1" posts. Not having a dislike button means you can't just disagree with somebody without also qualifying your disagreement. People are free to disagree with each other, of course, but you have to be prepared for the consequences if you do.

Everything you said is incorrect.
yup, it still works...carry on.

 

[megabigeye]

I liked your post, @Cruelhand Luke, but I also dislike your post. Hmmph.

 

[Cruelhand Luke]

I liked your post, @Cruelhand Luke, but I also dislike your post. Hmmph.

wheels within wheels....

 

[bcaulf17]

I used to like Reddit, I still do actually to see people post impressions of their gear, but that place has become about as cult-like as Head-Fi. There’s a flock of people who cling to the Harman response curve and try to force feed the data to people. Objective opinions run rampant.

Just recently I asked a question about whether I should buy a certain headphone, if it were worth it or not, and listed what I owned currently (and what I’m happy with) and they suggested I upgrade my closed back (my 177X Go, which costs $380). I was expecting them to recommend pricier options but their first suggestion was the AKG K371, a $150 headphone that’s been getting praise (and way more hype than it deserves) because it follows the Harman target more closely than any other headphone.

Impressive yes, and it is a good headphone. I actually own it and like it but not as much as the Beyer 177X. It loses in terms of detail, imaging and soundstage. I said this and they told me “don’t judge the K371 by its price, it beats ANY HEADPHONE SONICALLY AT ANY PRICE POINT...”

Now hold on...again I think it’s great that it follows Harman so accurately but really? I chimed back again saying sorry, I like it but not as much, because the 177X has a more immersive soundstage. The user then tried to tell me that soundstage has very little to do with the headphone.

This is what I mean. There are people around there parading Harman and it’s partially because one of their top Reddit users is an engineer who backs the Harman response. I like their work and their contributions to the subreddit, and I like Harman, but when it starts to turn into something like “everything needs to be Harman tuned” and people start saying things like soundstage is bs to defend the flaws, is where I start losing my interest.

 

[Cruelhand Luke]

I used to like Reddit, I still do actually to see people post impressions of their gear, but that place has become about as cult-like as Head-Fi. There’s a flock of people who cling to the Harman response curve and try to force feed the data to people. Objective opinions run rampant.

Just recently I asked a question about whether I should buy a certain headphone, if it were worth it or not, and listed what I owned currently (and what I’m happy with) and they suggested I upgrade my closed back (my 177X Go, which costs $380). I was expecting them to recommend pricier options but their first suggestion was the AKG K371, a $150 headphone that’s been getting praise (and way more hype than it deserves) because it follows the Harman target more closely than any other headphone.

Impressive yes, and it is a good headphone. I actually own it and like it but not as much as the Beyer 177X. It loses in terms of detail, imaging and soundstage. I said this and they told me “don’t judge the K371 by its price, it beats ANY HEADPHONE SONICALLY AT ANY PRICE POINT...”

Now hold on...again I think it’s great that it follows Harman so accurately but really? I chimed back again saying sorry, I like it but not as much, because the 177X has a more immersive soundstage. The user then tried to tell me that soundstage has very little to do with the headphone.

This is what I mean. There are people around there parading Harman and it’s partially because one of their top Reddit users is an engineer who backs the Harman response. I like their work and their contributions to the subreddit, and I like Harman, but when it starts to turn into something like “everything needs to be Harman tuned” and people start saying things like soundstage is bs to defend the flaws, is where I start losing my interest.

Saying soundstage doesn't matter with headphones is like saying texture doesn't matter with food.

 

[bcaulf17]

Saying soundstage doesn't matter with headphones is like saying texture doesn't matter with food.

Yeah I was flabbergasted. That left a sour taste on my tongue. The dude was trying to push this headphone on me and when I said I liked it but not as much as my other headphone he scraped for some hypothesis to defend the headphone he was recommending and find a way to say it was better. If people push enough, others will start feeling like they need to dump what they own to follow the hivemind and get what science says is best, destroying the fabric of what this hobby is about...personal enjoyment!

 

[megabigeye]

I used to like Reddit, I still do actually to see people post impressions of their gear, but that place has become about as cult-like as Head-Fi. There’s a flock of people who cling to the Harman response curve and try to force feed the data to people. Objective opinions run rampant.

I'm curious what you find cult-like about Head-Fi? There are misinformed people and there are fanboys, but I don't think I've ever (that I remember) felt like there was one opinion that was drowning out all the others... Okay, that's not strictly true— I guess the science based opinions are (more than) kinda sidelined here. But for the most part I'd say differing opinions thrive here. Compared to some ten years ago, I find people on Head-Fi to be much more open-minded than they used to be.
...But I'm curious what you find cult-like?

 

[bcaulf17]

I'm curious what you find cult-like about Head-Fi? There are misinformed people and there are fanboys, but I don't think I've ever (that I remember) felt like there was one opinion that was drowning out all the others... Okay, that's not strictly true— I guess the science based opinions are (more than) kinda sidelined here. But for the most part I'd say differing opinions thrive here. Compared to some ten years ago, I find people on Head-Fi to be much more open-minded than they used to be.
...But I'm curious what you find cult-like?

I don’t think cult like is the right term but I’ve seen many a thread about a particular headphone that gets some praise, someone comes in with a negative opinion, their opinion gets shot down, and then it turns into an argument rather than a thought out discussion. That’s what I meant. I like Head-Fi but I won’t ignore that some seem like they take offense by differing opinions. It did seem to happen more frequently some time ago but it still exists. But that’s the case with any forum about any hobby more often than not I presume