nick_charles
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I have started a thread on the What HiFi forum about blind tests...
What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision - Blind Tests
What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision - Blind Tests
Originally Posted by drummerman (of What Hi-fi?) Who cares anyhow, it's entertaining reading, whichever publication and if I want to buy, the only opinion/ears that matter are mine. |
Originally Posted by Leny /img/forum/go_quote.gif Shark_Jump, virtually all analog electronic components are susceptible to vibration, although most are at such a low level as to be not noticeable. The components most likely to be noticeably affected are vacuum tubes and record players. |
Originally Posted by Leny /img/forum/go_quote.gif My statement was a fact not an opinion, and posted to help you in the right direction. You are of course at liberty to follow that direction if it interests you, or completely reject it if it does not match your understanding. (It’s worthwhile keeping in mind that all magazine reports on rack ‘sound quality’ is little more than shallow subjective prose with the main aim of hooking readers in order to sell magazines). If you wish to prove that it has something to do ‘room frequency’ balance / reflections due to the change of the ‘furniture’ then I wish you the best of luck in your endeavours, and I look forward to reading your report. |
Originally Posted by Shark_Jump /img/forum/go_quote.gif Do you not think that changing room furnature alters the frequency reponse of your room? Also do you not think this can have a significant effect on what you actually hear from your speakers? |
Originally Posted by Leny /img/forum/go_quote.gif A qualified 'yes'. Qualification: if changing a large item (such as a sofa for example) then there is a perceptable change to response via speakers. However most racks are very similar in size and shape and I would be very surprised if swaping like-for-almost-like would make a noticeable difference. I believe that the two racks would need to be very significantly different in size for it to have any effect at all due to room acoustics, and even then it would be 'whole room' dependent and not 'a specific sound quality that is the character of that specific rack'. |
Originally Posted by Leny /img/forum/go_quote.gif Edit: you still miss the points. Which are... A) Room effects only come into effect if the change between the racks is significant. In any test of 'standard' like-for-almost-like racks the differences are down to vibration transmission and susceptability. |
Originally Posted by Leny /img/forum/go_quote.gif B) Virtually all rack 'tests' are written with a personal aganda whereby the writer has a vested interest in asigning a specific sound quality to a specific rack. Hence the test is at best biased, and may even be completely falsified. |
Originally Posted by Leny /img/forum/go_quote.gif If you don't want to accept this then you are naturally welcome to disagree. I have provided the sign post and you have decided to walk in a different direction. . |
Originally Posted by Leny /img/forum/go_quote.gif Best wishes, but no point to continue the discussion. |
Originally Posted by JohnFerrier /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hilarious. . |
Originally Posted by Leny /img/forum/go_quote.gif Shark_Jump, virtually all analog electronic components are susceptible to vibration, although most are at such a low level as to be not noticeable. The components most likely to be noticeably affected are vacuum tubes and record players. My previous statement was a fact not an opinion, and meant as a sign-post to help you in the right direction. You are of course at liberty to follow that direction if it interests you, or completely reject it if it does not match your requirements. (It’s worthwhile keeping in mind that all magazine reports on rack ‘sound quality’ is little more than shallow subjective prose with the main aim of hooking readers in order to sell magazines). If you wish to prove that it has something to do with ‘room frequency’ balance / reflections due to the change of the ‘furniture’ then I wish you the best of luck in your endeavours, and I look forward to reading your report. Prog Rock Man, I hope you enjoy any visit you make to their ‘test’ session. Even if it proves nothing it may well be an entertaining day. : ) |
Originally Posted by nick_charles /img/forum/go_quote.gif I have started a thread on the What HiFi forum about blind tests... What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision - Blind Tests |
Originally Posted by Shark_Jump /img/forum/go_quote.gif It looks like you have a response from the consulting editor. What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision - Blind Tests I cannot see anything about blind testing in the link. I won't say anything else as its probably not great ethics to pass comment on another thread . "All review verdicts are agreed upon by the team as a whole - not an individual reviewer. Each product will be listened to and/or viewed by several members of the test team, who will then discuss the final verdict before it appears in the magazine or on the website. This avoids any individual bias creeping in." |
Originally Posted by Shark_Jump /img/forum/go_quote.gif It looks like you have a response from the consulting editor. "All review verdicts are agreed upon by the team as a whole - not an individual reviewer. Each product will be listened to and/or viewed by several members of the test team, who will then discuss the final verdict before it appears in the magazine or on the website. This avoids any individual bias creeping in." |