What DIP sockets are audio quality?
Nov 15, 2004 at 10:07 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 26

nleahcim

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Hi - I was wondering if somebody might be able to suggest a brand/series of through hole mounted DIP sockets that would be well suited for audio applications? I need to pick up a couple 8-DIP sockets for a CMOY - and I'm not totally sure which to get. Oh - and preferrably could you suggest one that is stocked by Mouser/Digi-Key/Newark? Thanks!
 
Nov 15, 2004 at 10:34 PM Post #3 of 26
Check Tangent's tutorials for a gold-plated socket's part number, or just search whichever distributor you like for "gold plated socket". Make sure it's DIP-8 and you're set.
 
Nov 15, 2004 at 11:34 PM Post #5 of 26
I'm of the opinion that the fraction of a centimeter of conductor that is going to be used by the dip socket is going to have 'nil effect on the audio signal, especially if the dip socket isn't impeding the function of any IC plugged into it. I've never seen an IC with the specifications "only mount in a gold plated dip socket or it'll oscillate like mad!"

I, however, use the gold plated ones mentioned in tangent's guide because they're good and solid feeling, and built well.

-Z
 
Nov 15, 2004 at 11:38 PM Post #6 of 26
I'm with Zemo on this one. I've seen two types. One has flat tabs in the side and the other has machined sockets. I use the latter for it's solid feel.
 
Nov 16, 2004 at 1:32 AM Post #7 of 26
Same here, the better ones look like this BTW:

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They kind of have a tappered holes and you can feel the difference when inserting the opamp.
 
Nov 16, 2004 at 2:03 AM Post #8 of 26
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Originally Posted by Pars
Digikey A400 for the 8 pin ones are my favorite (Aries).


It's funny you say that one - as that's the socket I had been planning on using! Only thing I'm worried about is that digi-key links me to this datasheet: http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Arie...08-3518-10.pdf - which has a capacitor on it, which I don't really want...

But then in the catalog: http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T043/0285.pdf it's shown without a capacitor, but I also don't see any notch or whatever it's called to signify pins 1 and 8.

Odd...
 
Nov 16, 2004 at 2:06 AM Post #9 of 26
Here are pics of the one tpg slapped in my amp. These were taken when I was doing my op-amp comparison.

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Sorry, they're fuzzy, but you get the idea.
 
Nov 16, 2004 at 2:10 AM Post #10 of 26
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Originally Posted by MD1032
Here are pics of the one tpg slapped in my amp. These were taken when I was doing my op-amp comparison.

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Do you know what brand/model those are?
 
Nov 16, 2004 at 2:26 AM Post #11 of 26
Sent tpg an e-mail, I'll post back when I know.
 
Nov 16, 2004 at 3:11 AM Post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by Zemo
I'm of the opinion that the fraction of a centimeter of conductor that is going to be used by the dip socket is going to have 'nil effect on the audio signal...
-Z



True.

Crappy sockets can cause an intermittant connection or add noise due to poor contact. I'd stay away from any dual leaf tin plated socket for this reason. Gold Plated machined pin sockets like the Digikey A400 should be fine.

Any socket will also add a very small amount of capacitance between the IC pins. I doubt I could hear it. If your ears can hear the difference between a $20.00 RCA cable and a $100.00 RCA cable omitting sockets is worth a second look.
 
Nov 16, 2004 at 6:29 AM Post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by AndrewFischer
Any socket will also add a very small amount of capacitance between the IC pins. I doubt I could hear it. If your ears can hear the difference between a $20.00 RCA cable and a $100.00 RCA cable omitting sockets is worth a second look.


The capacitance is negligible. What's "important" is the series inductance that
you'll add by using DIP sockets with long leads, and that's only important if
you're running your circuit at 100MHz or higher. Our feeble ears can't tell the
difference.
 
Nov 16, 2004 at 5:45 PM Post #14 of 26
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Originally Posted by nleahcim
It's funny you say that one - as that's the socket I had been planning on using! Only thing I'm worried about is that digi-key links me to this datasheet: http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Arie...08-3518-10.pdf - which has a capacitor on it, which I don't really want...

But then in the catalog: http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T043/0285.pdf it's shown without a capacitor, but I also don't see any notch or whatever it's called to signify pins 1 and 8.

Odd...



The ones I use (A400-ND) don't have a capacitor built-in. I like these versus the MillMax and Assmann sockets they carry because they are more resistant to pulling pins if you remove the socket... the AE7313 which I have also used loosens up and can actually pull a pin socket. The Aries are some sort of blue plastic base and seem to be more heat-resistant. Yes, I agree that the machined socket aspect is far more important than the gold plating. There has been some talk of the gold plated socket versus the tin plating on most DIP chip leads and adverse dissimilar metals reactions, but I haven't seen any problems associated with that.
 

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