Westone UM2 or UE Triple.fi 10?

[BloodSugar00]

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Originally Posted by oicdn /img/forum/go_quote.gif The triple fi suck because they don't fit everybody. They're huge. They have a large(r) price tag. The profile of them in your ear doesn't make them stable for any activities other than just sitting there. They're not as comfy as UM2s. Listen to a UM2 with the Corda Move....it's pretty damn good. Punchy, clear, articulate, transparent and just smile invoking.

Thats an opinionated comment, not fact. I have the triples and they fit fine, comforably and securely. I can move around in them without breaking seal. And, they aren't that big. Having said that, theres a chance of fit problems (perhaps more so reportedly with this IEM than others) and they are larger than most other IEM's (but in reality they are still compact). And they are one of the more expensive universal fit IEM's.

 

[filipelli]

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Originally Posted by oicdn /img/forum/go_quote.gif The triple fi suck because they don't fit everybody. They're huge. They have a large(r) price tag. The profile of them in your ear doesn't make them stable for any activities other than just sitting there. They're not as comfy as UM2s. Listen to a UM2 with the Corda Move....it's pretty damn good. Punchy, clear, articulate, transparent and just smile invoking.

Yeah true that triples have a bad fit...and um2s are ridiculously comfortable.

BUT.

I don't know how you can say that oicdn. The um2 are bloody muddy and bloated in bass. Made me say, "whoa" the first time I listened to them....and then made me put them for sale on the forums practically the next day. Granted I don't have a Corda Move, but I don't see how an amp can improve that kind of flaw, or character in IEMS. Transparent? Really?

I would say that about the um1.

Triples do not need the amp to sound good. That is the difference.

I agree for the most part with this statement.

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Originally Posted by DavidMahler /img/forum/go_quote.gif the SE530s sound like a more refined UM2.....better in every regard in terms of sound quality. If you're willing to spend the money of the Triple Fi's, spend your money on the SE530s....... If for some reason you don't want to spend your money on the shures, get the UM2. The Triple Fi's are not good for heavy movement.

 

[oicdn]

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Originally Posted by ljcii /img/forum/go_quote.gif How do you people get a smile. Since my purchase of an entry-level in-ear ah-c351, after upgrading, i've never smiled... Only smiled for awhile. Later, it didn't amuse me anymore.

Trust me...when you find "that rig"...your smile won't stop. I still miss that Move/UM2 combo...it was FANTASTIC.



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Originally Posted by BloodSugar00 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Thats an opinionated comment, not fact. I have the triples and they fit fine, comforably and securely. I can move around in them without breaking seal. And, they aren't that big. Having said that, theres a chance of fit problems (perhaps more so reportedly with this IEM than others) and they are larger than most other IEM's (but in reality they are still compact). And they are one of the more expensive universal fit IEM's.

Well, that's what I meant. There's just as many people who DON'T have them fit, as there are people who have them fit....that's a pretty crappy ratio, and I think that blanket statement can be said, ESPECIALLY in comparison to UM2s.



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Originally Posted by filipelli /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yeah true that triples have a bad fit...and um2s are ridiculously comfortable. BUT. I don't know how you can say that oicdn. The um2 are bloody muddy and bloated in bass. Made me say, "whoa" the first time I listened to them....and then made me put them for sale on the forums practically the next day. Granted I don't have a Corda Move, but I don't see how an amp can improve that kind of flaw, or character in IEMS. Transparent? Really? I would say that about the um1. Triples do not need the amp to sound good. That is the difference.

Yeah, they're bloated...but compared to what? Etys? They're bass heavy. Anything more than neutral is considered bloated around these parts.

I was listening to Pepper - Zicky's Song on the Move/UM2 combo, and going from unamped to amped was a HUGE HUGE difference. Transparency veil was lifted (easily noticeable, not some "audiophile ear thing"),the bass tightened up dramatically, and the snare hits, I've YET to find an earphone that replicates the punch and impact that combo had for the snare hit in that song. It's my point of reference for impact and punchy-ness.

 

[lewislink]

What's the deal with the Triples? They are fantastic earphones. My goodness, some of the things I've read about them is beyond reason. They are easily in the league of the SE530 and the Klipsch Image X10s, they stand with them. Their comfort level is outstanding given the correct foam/sleeve. They sit out a bit but some things in life have compromises. I have very little trouble making them fit comfortably for an all-day run and their sound quality, though they have their own sonic characteristics, is tied with the SE530 and Klipsch Image. Those 3 canalphones are the preeminent phones available...in a universal fit, that is.

 

[Spyro]

UM2's "muddy...bloated"? LOL! Must have gotten a defective pair with only one driver working? TFPro DOES need an amp to help with it's sound flaws IMHO.

 

[BloodSugar00]

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Originally Posted by oicdn /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well, that's what I meant. There's just as many people who DON'T have them fit, as there are people who have them fit....that's a pretty crappy ratio, and I think that blanket statement can be said, ESPECIALLY in comparison to UM2s.

I dunno, I think if you're advising a prospective buyer you need to be fairer and more acurate than givin 'blanket' statements. I think you should at least make it known, if not, that its in your opinion.

 

[oicdn]

Not quite an opinion if even in the appreciation thread, people say "If you can get them to seal/fit, they're the best universals..."

Now, if a statement like that has to be said, I think it's clear that obviously, they don't fit everybody, and THAT is not an opinion.

I know I couldn't get them to fit/seal no matter what tip I used, just like Etys. And in hindsight, it was a complete waste of time and money just to see if something even fits my ear, let alone if I'll even like the SQ once/if it does fit. That's my opinion/take on things.

 

[BloodSugar00]

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Originally Posted by oicdn /img/forum/go_quote.gif Not quite an opinion if even in the appreciation thread, people say "If you can get them to seal/fit, they're the best universals..." Now, if a statement like that has to be said, I think it's clear that obviously, they don't fit everybody, and THAT is not an opinion. I know I couldn't get them to fit/seal no matter what tip I used, just like Etys. And in hindsight, it was a complete waste of time and money just to see if something even fits my ear, let alone if I'll even like the SQ once/if it does fit. That's my opinion/take on things.

Fair enough, to say they do not fit everybody is a fact and not an opinion, though that can be said for all universal fit IEM'S. Obviously, for the triples its a higher % than most other phones and I accept that. However, I'm led to beleive this is most often the case when a person has small ear canals. I've been wrong to use the word opinion, really. I suppose you've been strictly accurate with what you've said but you've just construed it in a biased way which has, to me, come across as unfair to the product in question so I disagreed with you. No hard feelings.

 

[steviebee]

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Originally Posted by lewislink /img/forum/go_quote.gif What's the deal with the Triples? They are fantastic earphones. My goodness, some of the things I've read about them is beyond reason. They are easily in the league of the SE530 and the Klipsch Image X10s, they stand with them. Their comfort level is outstanding given the correct foam/sleeve. They sit out a bit but some things in life have compromises...

Xbloody2.

Call me a fanboy if you will but Triple Fi are a damn fine IEM. Put a smile on my old wizened visage every time I use em....

Preference? Opinion? Damn right.

 

[oicdn]

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Originally Posted by BloodSugar00 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Fair enough, to say they do not fit everybody is a fact and not an opinion, though that can be said for all universal fit IEM'S. Obviously, for the triples its a higher % than most other phones and I accept that. However, I'm led to beleive this is most often the case when a person has small ear canals. I've been wrong to use the word opinion, really. I suppose you've been strictly accurate with what you've said but you've just construed it in a biased way which has, to me, come across as unfair to the product in question so I disagreed with you. No hard feelings.

No hard feelings taken.

It kinda of is biased, but is also the truth. they don't fit like you said, a higher percentage than most other IEMs. Actually, I can't think of any other line of IEMs that don't fit. All I can remember is people not having a preference or it not being comfy...meh.

But you're right about the small ear canals. I have them, and they didn't fit...sucks cause most everything DOESN'T fit my ear, well, atleast comfortably.

The only reason I got to hear Triple.Fis, was because the person I heard them from was trying to sell his cause they didn't fit, lol. I saw this was something fairly typical and HOPED I was one of the few people who they did fit well....I could never get them to fit and wasted a bunch of money on a ton of tips giving them a fair shake (as I also did with the EBs). Thankfully, I didn't have to ALSO buy the cans to hear them, which I'm grateful for.

 

[BloodSugar00]

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Originally Posted by oicdn /img/forum/go_quote.gif No hard feelings taken. It kinda of is biased, but is also the truth. they don't fit like you said, a higher percentage than most other IEMs. Actually, I can't think of any other line of IEMs that don't fit. All I can remember is people not having a preference or it not being comfy...meh. But you're right about the small ear canals. I have them, and they didn't fit...sucks cause most everything DOESN'T fit my ear, well, atleast comfortably. The only reason I got to hear Triple.Fis, was because the person I heard them from was trying to sell his cause they didn't fit, lol. I saw this was something fairly typical and HOPED I was one of the few people who they did fit well....I could never get them to fit and wasted a bunch of money on a ton of tips giving them a fair shake (as I also did with the EBs). Thankfully, I didn't have to ALSO buy the cans to hear them, which I'm grateful for.

Man, I can only imagine but imagine I can at how frustrating that must be to not be able to get an IEM to fit! All you wana do is sample it, hear its sound and you can't (well, fully/properly anyway). I can very much understand where bias can be born there lol. I'm yet to experience this as I've said but yeah, must be a bitch! Lucky I don't have small ear canals I suppose

 

[lewislink]

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Originally Posted by BloodSugar00 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Man, I can only imagine but imagine I can at how frustrating that must be to not be able to get an IEM to fit! All you wana do is sample it, hear its sound and you can't (well, fully/properly anyway). I can very much understand where bias can be born there lol. I'm yet to experience this as I've said but yeah, must be a bitch! Lucky I don't have small ear canals I suppose

I guess that's the difference with me also. I have large canals and the Complys, the only ones available for the large nozzle type like the Triples, are just a bit too small to make a good seal. I'm glad for the Shure olives and being able to mod them. However, I have found a good, permeable silicone will also do well when properly prepped.

 

[BloodSugar00]

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Originally Posted by lewislink /img/forum/go_quote.gif I guess that's the difference with me also. I have large canals and the Complys, the only ones available for the large nozzle type like the Triples, are just a bit too small to make a good seal. I'm glad for the Shure olives and being able to mod them. However, I have found a good, permeable silicone will also do well when properly prepped.

I find the double flange UE silicone tips provided to be satisfactory enough for me, on all counts (SQ, fit, comfort). I have a couple a sets of the complys you mention but I just havn't tried them yet. I don't think my ear canals are as big as yours though as generally it medium-sized tips that fit me, large varieties tending to just be that bit too big as to be abrasive and uncomfortable so I should be alright with the complys me thinks. Havn't tried the olive mod either yet, but my exp so far with olives has been very pleasing so I'm bound to try it at some point. Know they're poorly made but you tried the supplied UE foams?If so what you make of them?

 

[lewislink]

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Originally Posted by BloodSugar00 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I find the double flange UE silicone tips provided to be satisfactory enough for me, on all counts (SQ, fit, comfort).

Hmmm...maybe I missed something. I haven't seen a dual flange UE sleeve. The only dual flangers that I ever found for the larger nozzle phones to be sufficient were the ones that came with the Head Direct RE2s that I returned. I liked those dual flangers because they were so much larger and longer than any other dual flangers I've come across.

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If so what you make of them?

I like the UE OEM foams. That is when the cores don't fall out.

Of all of the UE foams I have, the cores have fallen out. But I can now easily solve that with a little cement. Not that I need to, though. The modded olives or the permeable large silys work just fine for me.

 

[BloodSugar00]

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Originally Posted by lewislink /img/forum/go_quote.gif I like the UE OEM foams. That is when the cores don't fall out. Of all of the UE foams I have, the cores have fallen out. But I can now easily solve that with a little cement. Not that I need to, though. The modded olives or the permeable large silys work just fine for me.

My thoughts echoed really. They are reaonably decent but the tubes are weakly/shoddily glued to foam so they are prone to falling apart.

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Hmmm...maybe I missed something. I haven't seen a dual flange UE sleeve. The only dual flangers that I ever found for the larger nozzle phones to be sufficient were the ones that came with the Head Direct RE2s that I returned. I liked those dual flangers because they were so much larger and longer than any other dual flangers I've come across.

I think you did mis out on a set of tips there as one of the supplied tip sets should be a set of double-flange silicones.