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Oct 11, 2009 at 4:41 PM Post #16 of 76
couldnt be a perfect timing

i ve started working out over the past month.

been taking Whey Protein (Gold Standard)

how about making it a thread for body building
 
Oct 11, 2009 at 4:57 PM Post #17 of 76
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All with shirts I assume?


For the records? Yes. I used them a couple times, didn't like them.. They really only work well if you train your triceps/front delts. Didn't help me at all.. For those scratching their head.. goggle bench shirt...
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Oct 11, 2009 at 9:31 PM Post #18 of 76
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For the records? Yes. I used them a couple times, didn't like them.. They really only work well if you train your triceps/front delts. Didn't help me at all.. For those scratching their head.. goggle bench shirt...
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Yeah, I know the records are shirted. 450 shirtless is pretty damn impressive, especially considering age. I've never heard of anyone actually peaking at 19.
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I'll never get up there... I like being thin.
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Anyways, enough circle jerking around; let's have some real discussion. Belts on small dudes doing relatively light weights: yay or nay? I only see the big guys wearing it, but honestly my lower back is feeling it every once in a while.
 
Oct 11, 2009 at 11:51 PM Post #19 of 76
I'm extremely thin. Is it at all possible to put on maybe 10 pounds through body weight exercises? I've been doing push ups, pull/chin ups, crunches, and I have access to a leg press and simple pulley weight machine which I use for a standing fly. I lifted a lot a couple years back and only put on maybe 5 pounds in 3 months, so I probably wasn't eating enough. Nowadays I don't have the time to hit the gym 4 days a week. Are gains feasible or will I have to find time to head to an actual gym?
 
Oct 12, 2009 at 1:01 AM Post #20 of 76
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Originally Posted by skitlets /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I'm extremely thin. Is it at all possible to put on maybe 10 pounds through body weight exercises? I've been doing push ups, pull/chin ups, crunches, and I have access to a leg press and simple pulley weight machine which I use for a standing fly. I lifted a lot a couple years back and only put on maybe 5 pounds in 3 months, so I probably wasn't eating enough. Nowadays I don't have the time to hit the gym 4 days a week. Are gains feasible or will I have to find time to head to an actual gym?


Definitely! Eat, train, sleep. Learn how to eat: the whats and whens are pretty important. Lower body exercises with big compound movements are especially helpful. Body squats, lunges and such.
 
Oct 12, 2009 at 7:06 PM Post #21 of 76
I am just shy of the 1000 lbs. club. Leaning out for an upcoming BJJ tournament isn't helping much either. Bench 1RM 320lb, Deadlift 295lb 3RM, Squat 315 3RM, those were @ 5' 10" @190lb, now I'm at 175lb...faster, more endurance but my bench has dropped by a good 25lbs. My squats probably suck now, since I've just been doing hills and running stairs.

atothex- As for lifting belts, I don't use one. I heard from this Kinesiology major (a girl I was seeing at the time) that it does not in fact engage more core or offer any sort of stability...so I just suck it in and keep that core tight.
 
Oct 13, 2009 at 2:03 AM Post #22 of 76
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Originally Posted by skitlets /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I'm extremely thin. Is it at all possible to put on maybe 10 pounds through body weight exercises? I've been doing push ups, pull/chin ups, crunches, and I have access to a leg press and simple pulley weight machine which I use for a standing fly. I lifted a lot a couple years back and only put on maybe 5 pounds in 3 months, so I probably wasn't eating enough. Nowadays I don't have the time to hit the gym 4 days a week. Are gains feasible or will I have to find time to head to an actual gym?


I'd focus on bigger muscle groups, & compound exercises, using more then one major body part.. Bench press: Chest. Front delts. Triceps. Squats: Quads/Hamstrings. etc.. These are also mass builders. Not sure if you are a hard gainer or not.. But For increased muscle mass, & more weight, I'd recommend the power lifts.. But building a good foundation is key. Form & proper body mechanics over weight.. If you start with bad habits they will be hard to get rid of. If you have trouble gaining weight.. & protein shake, or high calorie but nutritional shake can be taken. You can save money & make your own. Training 2 days a week to start is fine.. If gaining quality weight is what you want, my suggestions are a good starting point.
 
Oct 13, 2009 at 2:07 AM Post #23 of 76
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Originally Posted by atothex /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Yeah, I know the records are shirted. 450 shirtless is pretty damn impressive, especially considering age. I've never heard of anyone actually peaking at 19.
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I'll never get up there... I like being thin.
o2smile.gif


Anyways, enough circle jerking around; let's have some real discussion. Belts on small dudes doing relatively light weights: yay or nay? I only see the big guys wearing it, but honestly my lower back is feeling it every once in a while.



Thank you.. Also, no huge chest bump & no arching.. It seems like a great accomplishment to the outside world, but in the Power lifting world a teen benching 400 plus isn't THAT unusual. Far from the norm of course.. But when I subscribed to PL USA, I'd read about quit a few 18-19 yr old putting up anywhere from 400-525...

Belts should be used sparingly IMO.. Just like wraps & shirts.. If used too much will become a crutch & weaken your lower back.
 
Oct 13, 2009 at 2:14 AM Post #24 of 76
About my grip progress.. Was able to close the HG200lb 18 times with my right hand.. Albeit, the last two reps, I can't be 100% sure I closed them all the way. I rested 3 days. Also, I use rubber bands to train my forearm extensors.. The muscles that open the hand.. Much lighter weight of course.. 1-2 regular rubber bands will do.. I do 3 sets to fatigue..
 
Oct 13, 2009 at 2:39 AM Post #25 of 76
Any tips how I can achieve these results or would I be reaching too high?

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Oct 13, 2009 at 7:28 AM Post #26 of 76
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Originally Posted by kool bubba ice /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I'd focus on bigger muscle groups, & compound exercises, using more then one major body part.. Bench press: Chest. Front delts. Triceps. Squats: Quads/Hamstrings. etc.. These are also mass builders. Not sure if you are a hard gainer or not.. But For increased muscle mass, & more weight, I'd recommend the power lifts.. But building a good foundation is key. Form & proper body mechanics over weight.. If you start with bad habits they will be hard to get rid of. If you have trouble gaining weight.. & protein shake, or high calorie but nutritional shake can be taken. You can save money & make your own. Training 2 days a week to start is fine.. If gaining quality weight is what you want, my suggestions are a good starting point.


Do you focus on Olympic lifts more (e.g. Clean and Jerk and snatchs)? Or do you make sure to get a good foundation on the cores lifts first (bench, squat, deadlift, pull-ups)?
 
Oct 13, 2009 at 7:38 AM Post #27 of 76
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Originally Posted by kool bubba ice /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I'd focus on bigger muscle groups, & compound exercises, using more then one major body part.. Bench press: Chest. Front delts. Triceps. Squats: Quads/Hamstrings. etc.. These are also mass builders. Not sure if you are a hard gainer or not.. But For increased muscle mass, & more weight, I'd recommend the power lifts.. But building a good foundation is key. Form & proper body mechanics over weight.. If you start with bad habits they will be hard to get rid of. If you have trouble gaining weight.. & protein shake, or high calorie but nutritional shake can be taken. You can save money & make your own. Training 2 days a week to start is fine.. If gaining quality weight is what you want, my suggestions are a good starting point.


I think I am a hardgainer. I stuffed my face 4 times a day as much as I could, on top of daily protein shakes. On the flip side, I think I overworked myself. I was at the gym 5 days a week doing high reps for even small muscles like biceps/triceps. (5 sets, 10 reps) Looking back, that might have overworked my muscles. I did focus heavily on compound upper body lifts, like the bench, decline bench, and 2x dumbbell bench. I never maxxed but I was repping about 135lb x 6. I'd say not bad for someone who is 5'7 and not even 125. My chest muscles got a lot stronger but not any bigger.

Push ups probably won't be as effective as doing weighted benches, but are they enough to make a noticeable increase in mass? I'm thinking of getting pushup handles for increased range. As I said before, nothing crazy, I'm just looking to add about 10 pounds of muscle. I notice my arms show visible gains relatively quickly, it's just my chest that refuses to budge.

I've also never incorporated chin/pull ups into my workout regimen before. After the first few days... my back has never been that sore before. Great workout!
 
Oct 13, 2009 at 6:05 PM Post #29 of 76
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Do you focus on Olympic lifts more (e.g. Clean and Jerk and snatchs)? Or do you make sure to get a good foundation on the cores lifts first (bench, squat, deadlift, pull-ups)?


You really need a Certified strength & conditioning coach, or other knowledgeable person to tech you the proper techniques when it comes to the clean & jerk & snatches. Most trainers really have no clue & is out of their scope. Building a good foundation in the core lifts are essential for long term success & in terms of reducing injury. Starting on free weights over machines would be ideal, since you must balance each arm individually, helps builds better coordination & helps to employ stabilizer muscles among other things..
 
Oct 13, 2009 at 11:43 PM Post #30 of 76
I've been doing the weight thing for 7 years now, and I've never bothered with Olympic lifts. Olympic lifts for a newb is just a frightening idea. Even safer lifts like a flat bench with spot can have horrific mishaps, like with that USC kid. Tragic stuff.

Anyways, progress always comes easy for newbs. Just need to learn real discipline, that's all.
 

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