[Jxnkz]

What are your guesses about Quartett Scaler prices?

 

[Whazzzup]

do we have to get the scaler what if we want just quartet?

 

[Jxnkz]

do we have to get the scaler what if we want just quartet?

The Quartet is the like the M-Scaler, just better in every way

 

[Whazzzup]

Oh, I get it. I thought a new dac involved, my bad

 

[Jxnkz]

Oh, I get it. I thought a new dac involved, my bad

Not really but I think that there are several FPGA chips integrated

 

[SoupRKnowva]

What are your guesses about Quartett Scaler prices?

I think 15k USD is pretty likely. I doubt it's less than 12k. there's a lot going into this product, specially with two chassis as well, its not gonna be cheap to make.

 

[AndrewOld]

I think 15k USD is pretty likely. I doubt it's less than 12k. there's a lot going into this product, specially with two chassis as well, its not gonna be cheap to make.

And that’s before cables. You have to spend another 40% - £1400 - on top of the M Scaler to get the same cables that the designer uses. And since by all accounts the new upscaler has a separate power supply there will likely be incredibly expensive cables for that too. So, pro rata, if $15k is the price for the Quartet we can expect at least $6400 for cables plus thousands more for power supply cabling. But you’ll only find this out after you’ve bought it. Of course you may decide once bitten, twice shy.

 

[Billyak]

Id expect a product costing 12-15k to come with all cables already.

 

[gnomen]

Of course you may decide once bitten, twice shy.

That's where my thinking is headed. I was planning to upgrade my M/TT2 to an M/Dave combo but decided to look around. There are a number of DACs which sound decidedly better for a similar investment. I zeroed in on dCS Apex and Weiss and eventually decided on the latter. I've shared some experiences on the Weiss and Bartok threads if anyone is interested. The Weiss 501 is already markedly better than the Dave, surprisingly, for aspects we think of as Chord strengths: timing, placement in the sound stage, revealing instrumental timbre. I would encourage anyone to have a look around before continuing along the same road.

It's so nice to have one box once more, without extra cables and all the tweaks. Just ethernet in and beautiful music out.

 

[Jxnkz]

Does anyone has PMC speakers with a TT2?

 

[miketlse]

Does anyone has PMC speakers with a TT2?

If you search the TT2 thread itself, you will discover quite a few posts referring to PMC.
https://www.head-fi.org/search/17296122/?q=PMC&t=post&c[thread]=879425&o=relevance

 

[thePhones]

That's where my thinking is headed. I was planning to upgrade my M/TT2 to an M/Dave combo but decided to look around. There are a number of DACs which sound decidedly better for a similar investment. I zeroed in on dCS Apex and Weiss and eventually decided on the latter. I've shared some experiences on the Weiss and Bartok threads if anyone is interested. The Weiss 501 is already markedly better than the Dave, surprisingly, for aspects we think of as Chord strengths: timing, placement in the sound stage, revealing instrumental timbre. I would encourage anyone to have a look around before continuing along the same road.

It's so nice to have one box once more, without extra cables and all the tweaks. Just ethernet in and beautiful music out.

An ESS based dac better than Dave? Yeah right

 

[kennyb123]

An ESS based dac better than Dave? Yeah right

I think some would argue that the sound of a DAC is determined not only by the quality of the digital stage but also by the quality of the power supply and analog stage. ESS would be inferior to the digital stage in DAVE, but if the Weiss 501 had a superior analog stage and power supply it could certainly be better overall. I would want to hear from those who actually compared them.

 

[GryphonGuy]

Not really but I think that there are several FPGA chips integrated

I think the quartet refers to 4 FPGA processors. I think I heard that in a Thai HiFi interview of all things, so I might have misinterpreted that.

 

[thePhones]

I think some would argue that the sound of a DAC is determined not only by the quality of the digital stage but also by the quality of the power supply and analog stage. ESS would be inferior to the digital stage in DAVE, but if the Weiss 501 had a superior analog stage and power supply it could certainly be better overall. I would want to hear from those who actually compared them.

By better I mean more transparent: bad recordings sound bad, good recordings sound good.
A lot of times people mean by better: my favorite song sounds nice.
ESS based designs are fundamentally flawed in their technical ability. There is no fixing (creating new transparency) of the initial signal that comes out of the chip. But you can make a lot of flavors that people find attractive because now their beloved Rock song does not sound so harsh anymore or the classical recording sounds so clear and “transparent”. Real transparency does not care if you like the result, it shows what is there. If you want everything to taste like Whisky-Cola go ahead.
I much prefer a change in taste with every song, like no Whisky tastes the same (if you don’t put Cola in it )