88Sound
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I had the opportunity to audition the R10 about two weeks ago for over an hour with all sorts of material, I also brought my W100's for a known reference. The source was a Sony SACD player with my normal CD's through an EMP. The EMP was new and going through the hum phase that mine is now thankfully over. Before even trying on the R10's I plugged in the W100's to see how they sounded with this setup. My portable D-25S, or SL570 sound better through my broken in EMP than this new one, I can't imagine the source sounding worse than my portables so it must be the EMP, there were also some very expensive looking interconnects, (I use the often disparaged Monster interconnects).
My explanation of the setup is very important for understanding my review of the sound. Synergy between different equipment is critical at any audiophile headphone level and can easily be the difference between these things sound good and these things sound so great I can't live without them. Enough of that onto the sound.
The R10's are beautiful, they have top notch materials, are very comfortable, the Rolls-Royce of dynamic phones. They sound very good, polite on everything. I had the feeling I could be listening to punk rock while sipping tea with pinkie extended and feel right at home. Regardless of how harsh the material I played was it was polite on the R10's. By comparison my W100's (not broken in at all by anybody's account) sounded brighter than the R10's. The R10 politeness did not translate into realism as much as relaxation. Crashing cymbals, rim shots, harshly recorded muted trumpet, all polite. If I wanted to come home from a hard day at work, sit in my favorite chair with a single malt and relax the R10's would be hard to beat.
Maybe because I'm a musician or sound man or was dropped on my head as an infant I do not primarily listen to music for relaxation as much as intellectual stimulation. Stimulation not only from the composition and interplay of the music but also from the quality of the recording. I was hoping from the Sony description of the R10's they would be like a chameleon, smooth and flowing on some music, hard and slammin on others. I respectfully submit, these R10's in this setup did not slam. I don't think the W100's slam either in case you're wondering. If you look up slam in the dictionary you will see a small picture of a Grado 325. As far as the phones I've listened to that at times have disappeared sonically that happens the most with the EMP/W100 or ETY4S/RA-1 combo, it has also happened less often with the RS-1's and almost never with the 325's.
The Sony's thankfully for my wallet were not for me, but I can easily see why their owners love them. Even after everything I've just said I have been tempted to try for a used pair but have so far resisted. I am quite happy mixing and matching music with equipment to get what I consider to be that perfect sound.
Comparing the R10's and W100's side by side I found they have a lot in common: Closed, wood enclosures, 40 Ohm/48 Ohm, Same pad design, self adjusting, made in Japan, angled drivers, silk covered cord. So close in fact that I would be surprised if the W100 designers hadn't examined an R10 closely before the W100's were designed.
I am now home listening to my EMP/W100 with that harshly recorded muted trumpet (Miles recorded in 1958) and it sounds great and REAL.
Even if I had the R10's I would still be listening to slamming drums on the 325.
My explanation of the setup is very important for understanding my review of the sound. Synergy between different equipment is critical at any audiophile headphone level and can easily be the difference between these things sound good and these things sound so great I can't live without them. Enough of that onto the sound.
The R10's are beautiful, they have top notch materials, are very comfortable, the Rolls-Royce of dynamic phones. They sound very good, polite on everything. I had the feeling I could be listening to punk rock while sipping tea with pinkie extended and feel right at home. Regardless of how harsh the material I played was it was polite on the R10's. By comparison my W100's (not broken in at all by anybody's account) sounded brighter than the R10's. The R10 politeness did not translate into realism as much as relaxation. Crashing cymbals, rim shots, harshly recorded muted trumpet, all polite. If I wanted to come home from a hard day at work, sit in my favorite chair with a single malt and relax the R10's would be hard to beat.
Maybe because I'm a musician or sound man or was dropped on my head as an infant I do not primarily listen to music for relaxation as much as intellectual stimulation. Stimulation not only from the composition and interplay of the music but also from the quality of the recording. I was hoping from the Sony description of the R10's they would be like a chameleon, smooth and flowing on some music, hard and slammin on others. I respectfully submit, these R10's in this setup did not slam. I don't think the W100's slam either in case you're wondering. If you look up slam in the dictionary you will see a small picture of a Grado 325. As far as the phones I've listened to that at times have disappeared sonically that happens the most with the EMP/W100 or ETY4S/RA-1 combo, it has also happened less often with the RS-1's and almost never with the 325's.
The Sony's thankfully for my wallet were not for me, but I can easily see why their owners love them. Even after everything I've just said I have been tempted to try for a used pair but have so far resisted. I am quite happy mixing and matching music with equipment to get what I consider to be that perfect sound.
Comparing the R10's and W100's side by side I found they have a lot in common: Closed, wood enclosures, 40 Ohm/48 Ohm, Same pad design, self adjusting, made in Japan, angled drivers, silk covered cord. So close in fact that I would be surprised if the W100 designers hadn't examined an R10 closely before the W100's were designed.
I am now home listening to my EMP/W100 with that harshly recorded muted trumpet (Miles recorded in 1958) and it sounds great and REAL.
Even if I had the R10's I would still be listening to slamming drums on the 325.