Visual Intelligence Test. What is Intelligence? Did you take any Intelligence Tests?

Mar 7, 2007 at 1:23 AM Post #16 of 61
Bunch of copycats who ran out of idea and keep exploiting others ingenuity...

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No... I'm not intelligent enough to take the tests. I'd rather go create new polls to make myself looks more intelligent.
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Mar 7, 2007 at 3:39 PM Post #17 of 61
If I'm not mistaken, an IQ test is basically invalid after age 12... Since they are designed to measure raw intellect, accuracy goes way down as experience takes over innocence?
 
Mar 7, 2007 at 5:21 PM Post #18 of 61
Umm, no. They are invalid before age ~16 because you haven't reached your full potential yet. A 16-year-old who takes the test today and then again in 50 years will get very similar results. The test has nothing to do with "innocence" or "experience".
 
Mar 7, 2007 at 7:10 PM Post #19 of 61
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Originally Posted by nibiyabi /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Umm, no. They are invalid before age ~16 because you haven't reached your full potential yet. A 16-year-old who takes the test today and then again in 50 years will get very similar results. The test has nothing to do with "innocence" or "experience".


Well, I understood the opposite. It was my understanding that the tests were intended to gauge raw intelligence. In other words, effectively establish the individual brain's "computing power" over several skill sets. After a certain age, the accumulation of knowledge starts to affect the test's ability to discern between knowledge (as acquired through education and study) and intelligence (the brain's potential to learn).

Any IQ tests that I had participated in effectively stopped after grade 8 (in Canada, grade 9 is the first year of secondary school).

[EDIT] This is what I meant by innocence and experience, by the way. Two terms that seem to have irked you.
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Mar 7, 2007 at 7:30 PM Post #20 of 61
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I really doubt you've taken five certified IQ tests -- each one burns a ~$1000 hole in your pocket. Online tests are horribly inaccurate if that's what you're referring to. You can only receive an IQ test from a licensed psychologist.


My mom had me take a certified IQ test when I was in first grade because the faculty at my school was holding me back from more advanced assignments because they didn't believe I was smart. Well, let's just say they all got out of my way after showing them the results. In particular, my scores for the visual portions of the test were off the charts.

Interestingly, my wonderful Kindergarten teacher, at a different school, apparently knew a lot about how to tell what kids were good at by their activities at a very young age. Based off of the drawings I would do in class, she confidently told my mom that they were a good indication that I was intelligent and had very good spatial understanding. During high school, my art teacher said I was one of the best students at being able to do shading well (I mainly did pencil drawings) that he had ever seen. I think a lot of it had to do with my ability to visualize how a light source would cause shadow on the surface of whatever I was drawing (usually a portrait).

Anyway, I'm not sure exactly what the original poster is actually looking for in an answer, but the crosswalk paint pattern on the asphalt is the only thing the same in each picture that I saw, but I didn't look too hard.
 
Mar 7, 2007 at 7:36 PM Post #21 of 61
My visual intelligence is probably approaching dumb (those damn folded out shapes and tests like that I simply cannot do) but my aural/musical/verbal intelligence is ridiculous. Not only can I hear a fairly complicated peice of music and play it back accurately by ear (up to the level of maybe an easier choping nocturne) but no matter what the difficulty of the peice, once I play it once I have it completely memorized. I memorized the entirety of the Rhapsody in Blue piano solo in one week. Of course, I couldn't play it to performance standard for several months. But nonetheless, after playing the notes once I knew them cold. But my visual intelligence? Forget about it. I'm also TERRIBLE at math, yet I got a perfect score on the Verbal portion of the SAT. Overall I came in at 134 in the Stanford Binet test.

I find intelligence a fascinating topic. How can I be so good at certain things and so below average at others?
 
Mar 7, 2007 at 7:45 PM Post #22 of 61
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Originally Posted by GlendaleViper /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Well, I understood the opposite. It was my understanding that the tests were intended to gauge raw intelligence. In other words, effectively establish the individual brain's "computing power" over several skill sets. After a certain age, the accumulation of knowledge starts to affect the test's ability to discern between knowledge (as acquired through education and study) and intelligence (the brain's potential to learn).

Any IQ tests that I had participated in effectively stopped after grade 8 (in Canada, grade 9 is the first year of secondary school).

[EDIT] This is what I meant by innocence and experience, by the way. Two terms that seem to have irked you.
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IQ tests attempt to measure the general intelligence factor of any individual. The questions asked on them vary depending on the subject's age and cultural background so that they aren't asked something they couldn't possibly understand. The g-factor is based on the observation that peoples' scores on any subject of test correlate positively with one another, suggesting that there is such a thing as "raw intelligence" as you put it.

The intelligence quotient tells the general intelligence of somebody based on their age compared to the average score of other people their age. It is given multiplied by 100. For example, a 10 year old with an IQ of 100 would be exactly average, while a 10 year old with an IQ of 140 would have the same IQ as an average 14 year old. IQ scores tend to remain stable over a person's entire life.
 
Mar 7, 2007 at 7:50 PM Post #23 of 61
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My visual intelligence is probably approaching dumb (those damn folded out shapes and tests like that I simply cannot do) but my aural/musical/verbal intelligence is ridiculous. Not only can I hear a fairly complicated peice of music and play it back accurately by ear (up to the level of maybe an easier choping nocturne) but no matter what the difficulty of the peice, once I play it once I have it completely memorized. I memorized the entirety of the Rhapsody in Blue piano solo in one week. Of course, I couldn't play it to performance standard for several months. But nonetheless, after playing the notes once I knew them cold. But my visual intelligence? Forget about it. I'm also TERRIBLE at math, yet I got a perfect score on the Verbal portion of the SAT. Overall I came in at 134 in the Stanford Binet test.

I find intelligence a fascinating topic. How can I be so good at certain things and so below average at others?



Are you left handed? That would mean your brain's right hemisphere is dominant. The right hemisphere contains the brain areas most responsible for the processing of music and other "abstract" mental abilities. Then again, all of the major brain areas responsible for language processing are in the left hemisphere... are you ambidextrous? lol
 
Mar 7, 2007 at 7:51 PM Post #24 of 61
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The intelligence quotient tells the general intelligence of somebody based on their age compared to the average score of other people their age. It is given multiplied by 100. For example, a 10 year old with an IQ of 100 would be exactly average, while a 10 year old with an IQ of 140 would have the same IQ as an average 14 year old. IQ scores tend to remain stable over a person's entire life.


Very interesting - and thanks for that tidbit of knowledge.

Like others here, I am definitely very interested in the idea of knowledge, especially when it comes to the innate strengths and weaknesses of the individual brain. The workings of the brain are as fascinating to me as space/the universe and our deep oceans.
 
Mar 7, 2007 at 7:51 PM Post #25 of 61
Considering the opening post on this I think you have failed the test Adam.

You say don't go past the red line if you got the answer wrong but don't say what the answer is. You then allude to some debate over the answer and say you'll use the 3 pics as an example.

Well you have me truly confused.

It's a bit like having an IQ test with the question "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"

My answer is 42
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Mar 7, 2007 at 7:58 PM Post #26 of 61
Here's an interesting question I heard about from a teacher I had in a highschool philosophy class. Some university had a final exam for a philosophy course that consisted of a single question. A student's grade was 100% dependent on the exam performance, though there was no single answer to be given that could be considered right or wrong.

One question... and the question was one word. One student got 100% on the exam. I'll post the question and let's see your answers (I'll post the answer that garnered 100% in a bit):

The question is: Why?
 
Mar 7, 2007 at 8:09 PM Post #27 of 61
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Here's an interesting question I heard about from a teacher I had in a highschool philosophy class. Some university had a final exam for a philosophy course that consisted of a single question. A student's grade was 100% dependent on the exam performance, though there was no single answer to be given that could be considered right or wrong.

One question... and the question was one word. One student got 100% on the exam. I'll post the question and let's see your answers (I'll post the answer that garnered 100% in a bit):

The question is: Why?



Optimist answer - 'Why Not?'
Pessimist answer - 'Because'
 
Mar 7, 2007 at 9:26 PM Post #28 of 61
IQ tests are kind of like measuring the shape of a building with a foot ruler. The grid is too coarse and the details get left out.

Basically, an IQ test measures one's ability to take IQ tests. I worked with a man for a time who had a really high ability to visualize what went on in an engine, and could do complex repair jobs, but could never pass tests to get promotions.

It really bothers me when any unidimensional standard is used to judge the quality of anything. Even the simple task of choosing a set of headphones has nuances that result in some preferring one kind over another.
 
Mar 7, 2007 at 9:49 PM Post #30 of 61
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IQ tests are kind of like measuring the shape of a building with a foot ruler. The grid is too coarse and the details get left out.

Basically, an IQ test measures one's ability to take IQ tests. I worked with a man for a time who had a really high ability to visualize what went on in an engine, and could do complex repair jobs, but could never pass tests to get promotions.

It really bothers me when any unidimensional standard is used to judge the quality of anything. Even the simple task of choosing a set of headphones has nuances that result in some preferring one kind over another.



That's what everyone who's not satisfied with their IQ says!
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JK.


I took some sort of an IQ test when I was in sixth grade. My teacher told the school counsellor that she was positve I had ADHD. Well, my parents were very skeptical of me having ADHD because at home I could sit for hours working on model rockets/airplanes or playing computer games. Anyhow, they brought in a pyschologist to do an evaluation. For whatever reason they gave me an IQ test while the man observed me.

His final evaluation indicated that I was an extremely lazy sixth grader and had no signs of ADHD.
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He also said I scored 141 on that particular IQ test (I have no idea what test it was). My teacher still wanted to put me on medication though. Lol.
 

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