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We do fool, that's why we've replied in this thread. Just because you're too ignorant or hard headed to see things from a perspective other than your own, doesn't mean you're right. Sorry to break that to you.
Read Audiofiler's post again, assuming your perception skills are up to par. What part of this do you not understand?
The way I see it, if someone was looking for a vintage rs than he/she would already know about it. Linking a deal on a BIN is not the same thing as with a live auction. Why decrease the chances of a better deal to someone?? Put it this way, there was already a very good chance of a headfier winning this, a vintage or older rs, now this person will no doubt pay more because of the exposure.
Answer me this, who is being helped by posting this listing here? Certainly not the high bidder. It's the seller. What exactly do you get out of helping the seller sell his/her item for a higher price? A mental pat on the back? Look at your silly first sentence. You actually think it's a deal to the high bidder to pay a higher price than he/she would have had this listing not been posted? Idiocy.
You've got to be kidding me with this ridiculous tripe.
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Your ad-hominem attack isn't helping your argument at all.
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would be a deal to the highest bidder because he/she was willing to pay the higher price. Just because someone is willing to pay more than you doesn't give you the right to restrict freedom (ex. the thread to ban eBay auctions).
Also, do you believe the OP expected a "mental pat on the back" when he first posted this thread? He clearly intended to help another Head-Fi'er wishing to purchase a pair of RS-1s. It was stated that the chances were that a Head-Fi'er already knew about the auction. He merely allowed other Head-Fi'ers to have a shot at a deal (determined by how much they are willing to give) at some vintage RS-1s. You say he is trying to help the seller and other bidders.
You are looking at this from the point of the current highest bidder rather than from the final bidder. As I said, I have no sympathy for the current highest bidder. It was a deal for him at the current price he was willing to pay for it. So now, somebody, aware of the auction from Head-Fi (because he noticed this thread) is willing to bid a higher price. It is a deal from the buyer who pays the highest price. If he did not think it was a deal, he wouldn't have bid the highest amount.
It appears to me, what you chaps want, is government (moderator) intervention to place regulations on the free market. It is almost like you want "big brother" to step in and give you the deal.
So let me ask you a question.
Who is being "helped" by banning these types of eBay threads? The seller? The person willing to pay more than you?
The only person being helped is the current bidder.
You wish to restrict the freedoms of the tens of thousands of members here at Head-Fi for one person?
It doesn't work that way.
For the current bidder, this is not the end of the auction. This is an auction, not a sale. If someone bids more, the other bidder is free to do the same. In the end, the one who is willing to pay the highest price gets the toy. The other gentleman, because regulations were not set in place to help him, does not get it for the price he wanted it for. I want a BMW for a dollar but it doesn't work that way. Goods have value. The value given to them is determined by the price someone is willing to pay for them.
The problem is, you chaps don't want to pay for a pair of vintage RS-1s. No problem, just don't bid. Going over $500-600 is obviously not a deal to you. You don't set the price, the market does. Someone else's idea of a deal might not be a deal to you.
Again, I don't even believe this has anything to do with getting a deal. Deals are when luck meets opportunity.
We are talking about you wishing to restrict freedom for the sake of one person.
It's not happening. Gripe all you want.