TRI earphone impressions - I4 and I3, Starlight, NEW Starsea
Dec 12, 2020 at 10:18 AM Post #1,697 of 3,867
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Dec 12, 2020 at 11:19 AM Post #1,699 of 3,867
The question by @Codename john, was, how do the Starseas compare to the I3 and Starlights and is there a TRI "house sound"?

To deal with the two questions, I make this comparison between the Starsea the TRI I4 with references to both the I3 and Starlights and draw my conclusions.

TRI Starsea - IMR copper cable, 2.5mm balanced plug and Misodiko Tin white silicone tips. Requires minimal power - volume max on Note 10 and 20 (out of 60) on BTR5.

In short - As with the Starlights, the first word that comes to mind is detail and yes, clarity, imaging, good sound stage.

Here I pause to say TRI's new in-house BA does something to improve the reproduction of the timbre of instruments on which BAs generally fall short. That is to say, BA drivers can often sound thin when reproducing high notes, so that they almost sound like a thin light bulb filament compared to piezos which sound like they have more body, like a pin and then the electrostatics which sound fuller, like a solid nail (just sticking to the metaphor 😁). The effect is that when listening you get the impression BA drivers highs are brittle. TRI's new BA is closer to the piezos.

You will therefore not get the same quality highs in the Starseas as you would in the Starlights but they have brought the two sets fairly close and taking the price difference into account, I would say a job very well done. On most occasions you get immersed in your music and time just melts away. The Starseas are that good.

Bass is as recorded, no added bass, bass texture is excellent. Mids are forward and quite satisfying. Highs are extended well beyond most BAs with no strain or distortion at all. Yes, on rare occasions you are made aware that this is a BA set but mostly it is more piezo-like than BA.

In addition to great technical performance at this modest price, you have very very good tuning so the drivers work so well together so as to give you pin-point clarity and resolution. Classical music, jazz and salsa are all brilliantly delivered.

Put your earphones in and check this out:



TRI I4 - Tin Audio 4 strand SPC cable, 3.5mm plug and Misodiko silicone sheathed foam tips. Requires very little power - volume max on Note 10 and 20 on BTR5.

In short - Smooth analogue sound, lots of clarity, great bass texture and very good quality sub-bass, now I know the origin of the TRI I3 sound signature.

Bass is enhanced both in the sub-bass and mid-bass, texture is excellent. Mids are forward but not as lush as the planar mids on the TRI I3. Where the TRI I4 differs from the the I3 is that spritely tube sound, which on the TRI I3 comes across as big speakers surround sound, on the I4, the sound is the analogue sound you get from a tube amp with big bass, just like the I3.

Listening to slow relaxing jazz, I was just blown away by how effortlessly the TRI I4 deliver this wonderful serene sound.....at next to nothing price when compared to loads of other sets. Well done TRI.

Put in your earphones and check this out:



So to the second question, is there a TRI distinctive "house sound". The answer is there are two distinct sounds, whether they were intended to represent a "house sound", I do not know, but there is definitely a common thread on the, I4 and the I3, which is fun analogue sound with a sub-bass bias big speaker sound. Which on the I4 sounds like a tube amp flavour. Conversely, the Starlight and Starsea, are highly detailed reference sets with high resolution, excellent detail retrieval and imaging in addition you get realistic reproduction of the timbre of instruments.

Take your pick!
 
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Dec 12, 2020 at 11:24 AM Post #1,700 of 3,867
So to the second question, is there a TRI distinctive "house sound". The answer is there are two distinct sounds, whether they were intended to represent a "house sound", I do not know, but there is definitely a common thread on the, I4 and the I3, which is fun analogue sound with a sub-bass bias big speaker sound. Which on the I4 sounds like a tube amp flavour. Conversely, the Starlight and Starsea, are highly detailed reference sets with high resolution, excellent detail retrieval and imaging in addition you get realistic reproduction of the timbre of instruments.

Take your pick!
So if it has "star" in its model name, it is their reference sound. Just like in old times when people used the alignment of stars as references to navigate through the seas. :thinking: :smile:
 
Dec 12, 2020 at 4:27 PM Post #1,701 of 3,867
The question by @Codename john, was, how do the Starseas compare to the I3 and Starlights and is there a TRI "house sound"?

To deal with the two questions, I make this comparison between the Starsea the TRI I4 with references to both the I3 and Starlights and draw my conclusions.

TRI Starsea - IMR copper cable, 2.5mm balanced plug and Misodiko Tin white silicone tips. Requires minimal power - volume max on Note 10 and 20 (out of 60) on BTR5.

In short - As with the Starlights, the first word that comes to mind is detail and yes, clarity, imaging, good sound stage.

Here I pause to say TRI's new in-house BA does something to improve the reproduction of the timbre of instruments on which BAs generally fall short. That is to say, BA drivers can often sound thin when reproducing high notes, so that they almost sound like a thin light bulb filament compared to piezos which sound like they have more body, like a pin and then the electrostatics which sound fuller, like a solid nail (just sticking to the metaphor 😁). The effect is that when listening you get the impression BA drivers highs are brittle. TRI's new BA is closer to the piezos.

You will therefore not get the same quality highs in the Starseas as you would in the Starlights but they have brought the two sets fairly close and taking the price difference into account, I would say a job very well done. On most occasions you get immersed in your music and time just melts away. The Starseas are that good.

Bass is as recorded, no added bass, bass texture is excellent. Mids are forward and quite satisfying. Highs are extended well beyond most BAs with no strain or distortion at all. Yes, on rare occasions you are made aware that this is a BA set but mostly it is more piezo-like than BA.

In addition to great technical performance at this modest price, you have very very good tuning so the drivers work so well together so as to give you pin-point clarity and resolution. Classical music, jazz and salsa are all brilliantly delivered.

Put your earphones in and check this out:



TRI I4 - Tin Audio 4 strand SPC cable, 3.5mm plug and Misodiko silicone sheathed foam tips. Requires very little power - volume max on Note 10 and 20 on BTR5.

In short - Smooth analogue sound, lots of clarity, great bass texture and very good quality sub-bass, now I know the origin of the TRI I3 sound signature.

Bass is enhanced both in the sub-bass and mid-bass, texture is excellent. Mids are forward but not as lush as the planar mids on the TRI I3. Where the TRI I4 differs from the the I3 is that spritely tube sound, which on the TRI I3 comes across as big speakers surround sound, on the I4, the sound is the analogue sound you get from a tube amp with big bass, just like the I3.

Listening to slow relaxing jazz, I was just blown away by how effortlessly the TRI I4 deliver this wonderful serene sound.....at next to nothing price when compared to loads of other sets. Well done TRI.

Put in your earphones and check this out:



So to the second question, is there a TRI distinctive "house sound". The answer is there are two distinct sounds, whether they were intended to represent a "house sound", I do not know, but there is definitely a common thread on the, I4 and the I3, which is fun analogue sound with a sub-bass bias big speaker sound. Which on the I4 sounds like a tube amp flavour. Conversely, the Starlight and Starsea, are highly detailed reference sets with high resolution, excellent detail retrieval and imaging in addition you get realistic reproduction of the timbre of instruments.

Take your pick!
 
Dec 12, 2020 at 9:10 PM Post #1,703 of 3,867
The question by @Codename john, was, how do the Starseas compare to the I3 and Starlights and is there a TRI "house sound"?

To deal with the two questions, I make this comparison between the Starsea the TRI I4 with references to both the I3 and Starlights and draw my conclusions.

TRI Starsea - IMR copper cable, 2.5mm balanced plug and Misodiko Tin white silicone tips. Requires minimal power - volume max on Note 10 and 20 (out of 60) on BTR5.

In short - As with the Starlights, the first word that comes to mind is detail and yes, clarity, imaging, good sound stage.

Here I pause to say TRI's new in-house BA does something to improve the reproduction of the timbre of instruments on which BAs generally fall short. That is to say, BA drivers can often sound thin when reproducing high notes, so that they almost sound like a thin light bulb filament compared to piezos which sound like they have more body, like a pin and then the electrostatics which sound fuller, like a solid nail (just sticking to the metaphor 😁). The effect is that when listening you get the impression BA drivers highs are brittle. TRI's new BA is closer to the piezos.

You will therefore not get the same quality highs in the Starseas as you would in the Starlights but they have brought the two sets fairly close and taking the price difference into account, I would say a job very well done. On most occasions you get immersed in your music and time just melts away. The Starseas are that good.

Bass is as recorded, no added bass, bass texture is excellent. Mids are forward and quite satisfying. Highs are extended well beyond most BAs with no strain or distortion at all. Yes, on rare occasions you are made aware that this is a BA set but mostly it is more piezo-like than BA.

In addition to great technical performance at this modest price, you have very very good tuning so the drivers work so well together so as to give you pin-point clarity and resolution. Classical music, jazz and salsa are all brilliantly delivered.

Put your earphones in and check this out:



TRI I4 - Tin Audio 4 strand SPC cable, 3.5mm plug and Misodiko silicone sheathed foam tips. Requires very little power - volume max on Note 10 and 20 on BTR5.

In short - Smooth analogue sound, lots of clarity, great bass texture and very good quality sub-bass, now I know the origin of the TRI I3 sound signature.

Bass is enhanced both in the sub-bass and mid-bass, texture is excellent. Mids are forward but not as lush as the planar mids on the TRI I3. Where the TRI I4 differs from the the I3 is that spritely tube sound, which on the TRI I3 comes across as big speakers surround sound, on the I4, the sound is the analogue sound you get from a tube amp with big bass, just like the I3.

Listening to slow relaxing jazz, I was just blown away by how effortlessly the TRI I4 deliver this wonderful serene sound.....at next to nothing price when compared to loads of other sets. Well done TRI.

Put in your earphones and check this out:



So to the second question, is there a TRI distinctive "house sound". The answer is there are two distinct sounds, whether they were intended to represent a "house sound", I do not know, but there is definitely a common thread on the, I4 and the I3, which is fun analogue sound with a sub-bass bias big speaker sound. Which on the I4 sounds like a tube amp flavour. Conversely, the Starlight and Starsea, are highly detailed reference sets with high resolution, excellent detail retrieval and imaging in addition you get realistic reproduction of the timbre of instruments.

Take your pick!

I love the I3, but have never felt the need to buy the I4. Is it different enough to be worth owning? I own so many pairs in the general price range vicinity I just feel like like it'd get lost in the shuffle....
 
Dec 12, 2020 at 10:29 PM Post #1,704 of 3,867
I love the I3, but have never felt the need to buy the I4. Is it different enough to be worth owning? I own so many pairs in the general price range vicinity I just feel like like it'd get lost in the shuffle....

The I4 is different from the I3, but I find it difficult to say that it is vastly different from the I3, that someone with your experience in IEMs, who has many IEMs should get them. I am sure I have fewer IEMs than you have and I get overwhelmed sometimes so I understand your point. However, all I can do is highlight the difference and the fizz or spriteliness, tube-like sound is the main difference in sound signature. In sound quality, the I3 has a bigger, superior sound, especially with the planar mids, but the I4 is still fun.

Sorry I may not have helped the situation but if you got them, there will be times when you will seek them out for their specific sound signature.

I like the ISN D02, they are smooth fun but I get that on my beryllium coated Blon B08 headphones, so I can afford to let them go but not the I4 because of the unique sound. If anyone reading this gets them remember to break them in for some 24 to 48 hours, I think it is a revelation after break in.
 
Dec 13, 2020 at 1:40 AM Post #1,705 of 3,867
The I4 is different from the I3, but I find it difficult to say that it is vastly different from the I3, that someone with your experience in IEMs, who has many IEMs should get them. I am sure I have fewer IEMs than you have and I get overwhelmed sometimes so I understand your point. However, all I can do is highlight the difference and the fizz or spriteliness, tube-like sound is the main difference in sound signature. In sound quality, the I3 has a bigger, superior sound, especially with the planar mids, but the I4 is still fun.

Sorry I may not have helped the situation but if you got them, there will be times when you will seek them out for their specific sound signature.

I like the ISN D02, they are smooth fun but I get that on my beryllium coated Blon B08 headphones, so I can afford to let them go but not the I4 because of the unique sound. If anyone reading this gets them remember to break them in for some 24 to 48 hours, I think it is a revelation after break in.
I just counted earlier while updating my gear list ( a long overdue task) and I currently own 38 pairs of IEMs (nobody tell my wife...). Uniqueness is a HUGE factor to me at this point so I appreciate that perspective. For instance, the ibasso it00 is a very nice sounding set, especially at it's price.... But I just can't imagine using them aside for comparing. I have sets that are just altogether superior.
 
Dec 13, 2020 at 2:31 AM Post #1,706 of 3,867
I just counted earlier while updating my gear list ( a long overdue task) and I currently own 38 pairs of IEMs (nobody tell my wife...). Uniqueness is a HUGE factor to me at this point so I appreciate that perspective. For instance, the ibasso it00 is a very nice sounding set, especially at it's price.... But I just can't imagine using them aside for comparing. I have sets that are just altogether superior.
I agree. It's easy to get lost in the rabbit hole .I understand your comment about uniqueness! Many iems like I basso it00 are very good but there are many in that price range that are going for a populist v shaped signature . It seems tri are going for a more specialist type of tuning ! That's why I'm very intrigued by what they are doing. The tri 4 is tempting. Especially if it has a more analogue type sound . Thanks again @ChrisOc 😎
 
Dec 13, 2020 at 8:49 AM Post #1,707 of 3,867
Been so busy listening to the KBear Believe, Shuoer Tape Pro, and TRi Starsea that my TRi i4 has sat unloved, unlistened to in it's, little watch display, home. Been gradually trying to get some brain burn-in and other burn-in. Very clean analogue sounding IEM. I understand when it is seen as a precursor to the i3. There is a family resemblence. Bought these on 11/11 and am going to give them the time they deserve. At the moment they are on a Faaeal Copper 4.4mm cable in my HiBy R5. Seems that not many head-fiers have this DD x 1 Knowles BA...it's gone under the radar. It sounds pretty good.
 
Dec 13, 2020 at 8:54 AM Post #1,708 of 3,867
Been so busy listening to the KBear Believe, Shuoer Tape Pro, and TRi Starsea that my TRi i4 has sat unloved, unlistened to in it's, little watch display, home. Been gradually trying to get some brain burn-in and other burn-in. Very clean analogue sounding IEM. I understand when it is seen as a precursor to the i3. There is a family resemblence. Bought these on 11/11 and am going to give them the time they deserve. At the moment they are on a Faaeal Copper 4.4mm cable in my HiBy R5. Seems that not many head-fiers have this DD x 1 Knowles BA...it's gone under the radar. It sounds pretty good.
Tell me about the shuoer tape pro. Getting conflicting reports. I wasn't a fan of the original tape.
 
Dec 13, 2020 at 8:58 AM Post #1,709 of 3,867
Tell me about the shuoer tape pro. Getting conflicting reports. I wasn't a fan of the original tape.
If you didnt like the original tape, then you most likely wont like the pro either. They share the same flavor..although on is massively worse than the other in terms of quality.
 
Dec 13, 2020 at 9:11 AM Post #1,710 of 3,867
Tell me about the shuoer tape pro. Getting conflicting reports. I wasn't a fan of the original tape.
Thank you for asking. I bought my pair full price. I like them a lot. Have spent some time brain-burning and burning them in. Quite detailed and I use them as they are, but on the HiBy R5 they respond well to MSEB. Good bass, good, mids, good highs, analogue sound. Excellent cable. I never had the original so I can't compare, but I like these. Nothing is black or white and for many this will be a good IEM, even if any particular reviewer does not like them.
 

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