let's just calm down ,we want to make everything clear so what did you mean that ranking system doesn't matter if so I can agree with that .
Rankings are my own based on my own preferences. Your rankings may be different. I believe I said something to that effect in the first post. Maybe I didn't.
@purrin
Linear phase is less glary than Minimum Phase??? Oh men. You lost credibility on me there, sorry. You just confirmed my theory.
And I'm not talking about Minimum Phase digital filter, which still has post-ringing as you said, and which traded pre-ringing for timing phase distortion. Let us take my fave the Audiolab--it has Optimal Transient filters (3 of them) that has no pre and post-ringing at all. The most analogue-sounding digital filters I've heard. No glare at all, with very present and defined bass to sub-bass, especially on 3-way speakers.
I'm actually amazed that you didn't even account for what digital filters are used by each of the D-S and the like that you reviewed.
All DACs that sound the same--glary? It's because they're listening to the same digital filter. Period. All other factors mentioned here would be TOTALLY naught if you use the Standard/Linear Phase digital filter because of both ore and post-ringing.
If I'm to buy the Yggy or any other with R2R archi, I'll be buying the digital filter or no -digital filter or NOS or passive filter used, not the expensive R2R DAC chip.
I have heard DACs with minimum phase and linear phase filters. Some D-S DACs I have owned or borrowed for extended periods offered several filters. PWD2, Gamma2, Vega, LH, etc. (too many to recall.) In these cases, I've almost always preferred the linear phase filter. Smoother to my ears; however I still wouldn't say analog sounding or particularly smooth compared to R2R. The other ninjas in the evaluations preferred other filters. I'd say the filters are more a matter of "different" than better or analog.
Using your logic, the smoother "analog" sounding R2R DACs of yesteryear and Yggy would sound very digital because they have linear filter characteristics with both pre and post ringing. BTW, if you didn't know, most of the R2R DACs of yesterday also used cheap pre-canned filters.
Finally, the Audiolab DAC Optimal Transient filters do have pre and post ringing. So there goes your theory. I'd be happy to provide measurements for you if you don't believe me. Don't get bamboozled by their marketing literature. It's impossible to not have any kind of ringing with filters.
Sorry to say it, but you don't know what you are talking about.