The Stax Thread III
Apr 1, 2018 at 8:16 PM Post #14,806 of 25,535
I'm considering getting L700s and have some questions:

1) Any reason I shouldn't put the Vesper leather pads on them?
2) Is it worth looking at the 727ii(unmodded) over the 353x? Feels rather moot to pay the big buck to get a still flawed amp and tubes don't excite me.
3) Local store say they sell 230V version of the amps, but do they even exist? If it's recommended to run a 230->240 adapter I fell I may as well get the 100V version on the cheap.

Thanks I have a similar question: just got the L-700 and now in the search for an amp. Had even heard the
STAX SRM-323S would be a good alternative. Any views ?
 
Apr 1, 2018 at 8:53 PM Post #14,807 of 25,535
There are many differences between SR404LE and L700. In sound, L700 is far more detailed than SR404LE. L700
reproduces more energetic and transparent sound. I used to use 404LE with STAX SRM-T1S (very old tube one) .But with new SRM-007tA,
404LE began to sound more energetic . Not so detailed as L700, but straight. I like both of them.

I like your combo. Working man's 009/007mk1.
 
Apr 1, 2018 at 8:54 PM Post #14,808 of 25,535
I'm considering getting L700s and have some questions:

1) Any reason I shouldn't put the Vesper leather pads on them?
2) Is it worth looking at the 727ii(unmodded) over the 353x? Feels rather moot to pay the big buck to get a still flawed amp and tubes don't excite me.
3) Local store say they sell 230V version of the amps, but do they even exist? If it's recommended to run a 230->240 adapter I fell I may as well get the 100V version on the cheap.

Thanks I have a similar question: just got the L-700 and now in the search for an amp. Had even heard the
STAX SRM-323S would be a good alternative. Any views ?

Just get the Mjolnir Octave v2. It makes my 404LE's sing.
 
Apr 1, 2018 at 8:58 PM Post #14,809 of 25,535
I believe in my ears and I decided. And It's my problem, not yours. Further discussion will not be fruitful.
Oh yes further discussion will be fruitful for people that don't want to spend more money or can't afford too.. Maybe you're trying to justify the extra expense on the 007tA, and you will mislead other's into spending more $$$ than necessary without all the facts, and variables being equal.
 
Apr 1, 2018 at 9:44 PM Post #14,810 of 25,535
I bet it will not out perform my glorious KG T2 with XF2 Nos . It also look much better than both of the above :D


You cheating! The mighty T2 clone will always win !

But I have to say MSB technology is really high end. No joke! Only problem is they are super expensive.
What is wrong with them to make a $100,000 Dac (The Select DAC). They lost their mind :)

Review - https://www.stereophile.com/content/msb-select-dac

Detail Review - https://www.monoandstereo.com/2016/09/msb-select-dac-2-review-part-1.html
 
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Apr 1, 2018 at 9:59 PM Post #14,811 of 25,535
I just have this sneaking suspicion that they are taking advantage of their reputation and people who have far more money than sense.
 
Apr 2, 2018 at 12:45 AM Post #14,814 of 25,535
Apr 2, 2018 at 9:38 AM Post #14,817 of 25,535
Why not ? In this day and age, a headphones Cables can cost 4k

$4000 cables are still cheap compare the stuff i seen thou.

I know a guy who has a $35,000 cable, $20,000 connectors and $10,000 speaker cables ! LMAO

I told him he lost his mind. And he said "Yes" i did. Hahahhahhaahaha
 
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Apr 2, 2018 at 10:11 AM Post #14,818 of 25,535

Did anyone look at the specs?!?

The listed total power consumption is only 80 watts. If you subtract 40 watts for the filament power of the four EL34 tubes, that leaves only 40 watts. Note that the SRM-T1 has a power consumption of 45 watts, if you subtract the filament power of its two 6FQ7 tubes, that leaves 37 watts, which is nearly identical. Hell, my SRX-Plus draws 66 watts - subtract the filament power for four 12AT7s and two 6SN7GTBs, and the rest of amp draws --- 41 watts. By contrast, the BHSE consumes 180 watts, the DIY T2 over 200 watts.

And then, on top of that, they claim it can put out up to 15 watts/channel. A stereo amp, so that means a total of 30 watts for both channels. Now, remember that the theoretical maximum efficiency for a push-pull class A amp is 50%, and the theoretical maximum efficiency for a push-pull class B amp is 67%. And they claim 30 watts maximum with a 40 watt power consumption, which is 75%. This is beyond state of the art. It's beyond state of the possible.
 
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Apr 2, 2018 at 10:54 AM Post #14,819 of 25,535
Wow, I honestly skip all of those specs and details. Thanks for the info Jim. I am busy with T2 taping my ears lol...I may be a crazy one that i enjoy Bolero, Instruments, and even EDM on my T2 and 009. I even use them to justify it performances overall. Especially this track, skip to 1:13 if you are impatient

Listen to all that satisfaction bass, sub bass, high, and ...etc...
 
Apr 2, 2018 at 11:35 AM Post #14,820 of 25,535
Did anyone look at the specs?!?

The listed total power consumption is only 80 watts. If you subtract 40 watts for the filament power of the four EL34 tubes, that leaves only 40 watts. Note that the SRM-T1 has a power consumption of 45 watts, if you subtract the filament power of its two 6FQ7 tubes, that leaves 37 watts, which is nearly identical. Hell, my SRX-Plus draws 66 watts - subtract the filament power for four 12AT7s and two 6SN7GTBs, and the rest of amp draws --- 41 watts. By contrast, the BHSE consumes 180 watts, the DIY T2 over 200 watts.

And then, on top of that, they claim it can put out up to 15 watts/channel. A stereo amp, so that means a total of 30 watts for both channels. Now, remember that the theoretical maximum efficiency for a push-pull class A amp is 50%, and the theoretical maximum efficiency for a push-pull class B amp is 67%. And they claim 30 watts maximum with a 40 watt power consumption, which is 75%. This is beyond state of the art. It's beyond state of the possible.

Assuming the specs listed by the people who brazenly steal IP were technically correct to begin with.... :beyersmile:
 

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