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Aug 29, 2013 at 1:11 PM Post #197 of 439
Yeah...the HD25-1 and G35 won't cut it for me.  Even the CAL! doesn't cut it.  D7000 does.

.... Speaking of the d7000, have you heard the Denon dn-hp700, it has the same drivers as the d7000 and has a similar soundstage/imaging capability, obviously not as much soundstage but pretty darn close to the real thing
 
Aug 29, 2013 at 3:46 PM Post #200 of 439
Aug 29, 2013 at 3:55 PM Post #201 of 439
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.... Speaking of the d7000, have you heard the Denon dn-hp700, it has the same drivers as the d7000 and has a similar soundstage/imaging capability, obviously not as much soundstage but pretty darn close to the real thing

 
Hmm...Never heard of it.
 
Sounds to good to be true if its only $120 and shares similarities with D7000.  I wouldn't expect the soundstage to be close as the D7000 has huge cups and pads which make a big difference and is more semi-closed (not much isolation).
 
Interesting though.
 
Sep 11, 2013 at 6:23 PM Post #202 of 439
So, does the iCan function purely as an amp, or is it a DAC as well? And Chico (or anyone), is there a reason the ODAC isn't included on the list? Would the HRT products be recommended instead on a budget?
 
Sep 11, 2013 at 6:41 PM Post #203 of 439
  So, does the iCan function purely as an amp, or is it a DAC as well? And Chico (or anyone), is there a reason the ODAC isn't included on the list? Would the HRT products be recommended instead on a budget?

 
The iCan is purely a desktop amp.  The iDac is their DAC. 
 
There isn't really a reason that the ODAC isn't on there.  I just figured there are some people are using much more expensive DACs that are probably better.  I like the ODAC though, and I prefer the ODAC to the HRT MS II.
 
Sep 12, 2013 at 12:30 PM Post #205 of 439
   
Hmm...Never heard of it.
 
Sounds to good to be true if its only $120 and shares similarities with D7000.  I wouldn't expect the soundstage to be close as the D7000 has huge cups and pads which make a big difference and is more semi-closed (not much isolation).
 
Interesting though.

 
But does it really? From a Google search, the D7000 has a 50mm driver while the dn-hp700 seems to have a 40mm driver, so I have my doubts that they are the same.
 
Sep 12, 2013 at 5:52 PM Post #207 of 439
Okay, because... I love soundstage, and DACs would be a new frontier for me. I'm a bit worried the K712 may under deliver once it arrives :/

 
 
You don't already have a DAC?  I thought you did.  So your just running them from your laptop > amp > headphones?
 
A DAC would probably be an improvement in soundstage.
 
Sep 12, 2013 at 6:50 PM Post #208 of 439
Lol my laptop broke about a year ago. I have a desktop PC I built, and just recently bought a Mac Mini, but honestly I use my iPod as a source for music. Now I can use the Recon3D usb too, though I may get a DAC to use for music.

iPod Video > FiiO L11 Line-Out connector > amp > headphones.
 
Sep 12, 2013 at 9:36 PM Post #209 of 439
Then it must be the d2k/5k drivers

Pretty sure that among all being very good headphones, the D2k/5k/7k also share quite a number of parts. According to internet sources, they would all seem to have 50mm drivers though the D7000 has a driver with a stronger magnet. What has made you think the Denon dn-hp700 has the same driver?
 

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