The Reference 6SN7 Thread
Apr 21, 2023 at 9:47 PM Post #8,626 of 10,003
Let's see....at a guesstimated (but probably conservative) lifespan of 5 years per tube, I might not have enough if I live past 700. Not likely that I will, but anything's possible. Worse, if I get an amp that uses a pair at a time, then I'd run out at 350. That's definitely cutting it too close. 🤣
… and you just know that, in the meantime, the lights will go out in Georgia … 😳😫🕯🕯…
 
Apr 22, 2023 at 5:32 AM Post #8,627 of 10,003
Both made in 1965.
"Round getter" after change on the left.
The right side is "vertical getter"
Thanks but my eyes couldnt find any difference between the 2 tube types i.e the round getter base vs vertical. They look identical to me or am I looking at the wrong place.
 
Apr 22, 2023 at 7:30 AM Post #8,628 of 10,003
Thanks but my eyes couldnt find any difference between the 2 tube types i.e the round getter base vs vertical. They look identical to me or am I looking at the wrong place.
Just to chime in to clarify some terms used, so people who are new to tubes might understand them correctly.
When we talked about getter, we are generally talking about the getter flash, that's the silvery coating on the inside of the glass envelope. When discussing about the shape of the getter, we are referring to the getter holder (metal structure that used to hold the barium before it was flashed onto the glass during the manufacturing process) and NOT the getter flash.
In this case, I believe @prima186 is talking about bottom getter flash(round getter) as compared to side getter flash (vertical getter).

Check here for info: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/the-6sn7-identification-guide.209782/
 
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Apr 22, 2023 at 7:38 AM Post #8,629 of 10,003
Thanks but my eyes couldnt find any difference between the 2 tube types i.e the round getter base vs vertical. They look identical to me or am I looking at the wrong place.
The part is hidden by the getter, so it's hard to see the difference in the photos.
If you buy and compare "manufacturing tubes from the 1950s to 1964", you will immediately understand.
If you have a chance to buy, please compare.
 
Apr 22, 2023 at 7:41 AM Post #8,630 of 10,003
Just to chime in to clarify some terms used, so people who are new to tubes might understand them correctly.
When we talked about getter, we are generally talking about the getter flash, that's the silvery coating on the inside of the glass envelope. When discussing about the shape of the getter, we are referring to the getter holder (metal structure that used to hold the barium before it was flashed onto the glass during the manufacturing process) and NOT the getter flash.
In this case, I believe @prima186 is talking about bottom getter flash(round getter) as compared to side getter flash (vertical getter).

Check here for info: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/the-6sn7-identification-guide.209782/
Thank you for your supplement.
 
Apr 23, 2023 at 8:13 AM Post #8,631 of 10,003
I finally get what all the hype is about. . .the Melz 1578 Hole Plate is insane! :grin:

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Apr 23, 2023 at 8:37 AM Post #8,632 of 10,003
I finally get what all the hype is about. . .the Melz 1578 Hole Plate is insane! :grin:

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Totally agree. Paired with a Tung Sol 5998 it's still my favorite input tube in the Incubus amp, and I've rolled a boatload of input tubes through that amp.

I remember just a few short years ago (before @Paladin79 began hoarding collecting the remaining world supply) you could get a pair for less than $150. Now it seems the entry price is $200+ for a single. And now that you've mentioned them, I'm guessing the demand spike will push prices above $400. 🤣 🤣


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Apr 23, 2023 at 9:03 AM Post #8,633 of 10,003
Totally agree. Paired with a Tung Sol 5998 it's still my favorite input tube in the Incubus amp, and I've rolled a boatload of input tubes through that amp.

I remember just a few short years ago (before @Paladin79 began hoarding collecting the remaining world supply) you could get a pair for less than $150. Now it seems the entry price is $200+ for a single. And now that you've mentioned them, I'm guessing the demand spike will push prices above $400. 🤣 🤣




You finally learned the proper combo of tubes. :ksc75smile: All it took was a free amp and a free Melz tube and you just had to buy a 5998. Yesterday I took some time to swap my Melz collection into two Incubus amps, it took most of the day but it was well worth the adventure. Quality Melz tubes are now fetching $350 each, my collection is appreciating at a wondrous rate. I paid as low as $20 each before other people caught on.🤪🤪 We totally agree on the tubes in the Incubus and I heard in excess of 1500 6sn7 equivalents in four Incubus test amps.

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Apr 23, 2023 at 9:25 AM Post #8,634 of 10,003
You finally learned the proper combo of tubes. :ksc75smile: All it took was a free amp and a free Melz tube and you just had to buy a 5998. Yesterday I took some time to swap my Melz collection into two Incubus amps, it took most of the day but it was well worth the adventure. Quality Melz tubes are now fetching $350 each, my collection is appreciating at a wondrous rate. I paid as low as $20 each before other people caught on.🤪🤪 We totally agree on the tubes in the Incubus and I heard in excess of 1500 6sn7 equivalents in four Incubus test amps.
I was just commenting in another thread that the Schiit Vali 2 amp is the biggest bang-for-the-buck I've ever had. On further reflection, the Incubus beats it hands down. 🤣
 
Apr 23, 2023 at 9:27 AM Post #8,635 of 10,003
You finally learned the proper combo of tubes. :ksc75smile: All it took was a free amp and a free Melz tube and you just had to buy a 5998. Yesterday I took some time to swap my Melz collection into two Incubus amps, it took most of the day but it was well worth the adventure. Quality Melz tubes are now fetching $350 each, my collection is appreciating at a wondrous rate. I paid as low as $20 each before other people caught on.🤪🤪 We totally agree on the tubes in the Incubus and I heard in excess of 1500 6sn7 equivalents in four Incubus test amps.

At least the shipping is free. 🤣

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Apr 23, 2023 at 9:58 AM Post #8,636 of 10,003
I think the days of rolling premium 6sn7 tubes are mostly behind us now. The MOV/GEC/Marconi versions are selling for sick money as are the Brimars. The black glass round plate Tungsol Sol are getting close, Telefunken is nowhere to be found, and same for the Sylvania metal based 6sn7w. Now the best Russian tubes are rapidly climbing.

I’ve managed to still play in this game by using 12v and even 25v tubes but those are getting more difficult to find now. Even the premium 6j5 market is getting tough to find though the overall price is still lower than the 6sn7. I see an end in sight for my purposes thank God but glad I started buying a while ago.
 
Apr 23, 2023 at 10:18 AM Post #8,637 of 10,003
Apr 23, 2023 at 10:20 AM Post #8,638 of 10,003
I think the days of rolling premium 6sn7 tubes are mostly behind us now. The MOV/GEC/Marconi versions are selling for sick money as are the Brimars. The black glass round plate Tungsol Sol are getting close, Telefunken is nowhere to be found, and same for the Sylvania metal based 6sn7w. Now the best Russian tubes are rapidly climbing.

I’ve managed to still play in this game by using 12v and even 25v tubes but those are getting more difficult to find now. Even the premium 6j5 market is getting tough to find though the overall price is still lower than the 6sn7. I see an end in sight for my purposes** thank God but glad I started buying a while ago.
** which were? 🤔
 
Apr 23, 2023 at 11:36 AM Post #8,639 of 10,003
Apr 23, 2023 at 11:48 AM Post #8,640 of 10,003
I think the days of rolling premium 6sn7 tubes are mostly behind us now. The MOV/GEC/Marconi versions are selling for sick money as are the Brimars. The black glass round plate Tungsol Sol are getting close, Telefunken is nowhere to be found, and same for the Sylvania metal based 6sn7w. Now the best Russian tubes are rapidly climbing.
These have the same internals as the metal base 6SN7W's. Loctal base, but as far as I can tell that's the only difference.

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There's a pair of metal base up for auction now. Be interested to see how high they go. 21 bids already with 7 days left...

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