The Reference 6SN7 Thread
Nov 16, 2020 at 8:17 AM Post #2,596 of 10,006
Or is this one better?
I would go with the second ones if they are similar in price.

Both have all the indications of a true 1578. The tubes from the 80's have real pronounced midrange while the earlier versions from the sixties are more well rounded, especially the versions from 58-63 that I own. All of them IMHO need pin solder replacement, just like the Fotons. The tube year is in the lower right of the Melz logo, I could not make it out on those but I only have time to look quickly this morn.
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 8:55 AM Post #2,597 of 10,006
I would go with the second ones if they are similar in price.

Both have all the indications of a true 1578. The tubes from the 80's have real pronounced midrange while the earlier versions from the sixties are more well rounded, especially the versions from 58-63 that I own. All of them IMHO need pin solder replacement, just like the Fotons. The tube year is in the lower right of the Melz logo, I could not make it out on those but I only have time to look quickly this morn.

Thanks for the clarification. If I choose Melz, I must buy the second one, confirm Paladin79 indication. As the money is short, I am in huge doubt between the Melz 1578 and a pair of GEC L63, since you can't buy both. Can anyone make a brief comparison of the two?
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 9:19 AM Post #2,598 of 10,006
Thanks for the clarification. If I choose Melz, I must buy the second one, confirm Paladin79 indication. As the money is short, I am in huge doubt between the Melz 1578 and a pair of GEC L63, since you can't buy both. Can anyone make a brief comparison of the two?
I believe @bcowen can.
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 12:02 PM Post #2,599 of 10,006
Thanks for the clarification. If I choose Melz, I must buy the second one, confirm Paladin79 indication. As the money is short, I am in huge doubt between the Melz 1578 and a pair of GEC L63, since you can't buy both. Can anyone make a brief comparison of the two?
If your unable to desolder the pins of the Melz 1578 then clearly the GECL63 would be a better buy.
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 2:40 PM Post #2,600 of 10,006
If your unable to desolder the pins of the Melz 1578 then clearly the GECL63 would be a better buy.

@SHIMACM I can only add that if you did go with the GEC L63 approach - you would invest in that dual 6J5 adapter - which will open you up to another, deeper vein in the rabbit hole of tube rolling...
 
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Nov 16, 2020 at 4:24 PM Post #2,601 of 10,006
Well... as luck would have it..talk about Melz tubes...and look what just dropped in today... 4 weeks in waiting. Not the premium 1578 but a Melz just the same. See how they stack up to the 1578 on hand and especially...to the mystery tube coming in later this week.
PXL_20201116_211051704.PORTRAIT-01.COVER.jpgPXL_20201116_211058412.PORTRAIT-01.COVER.jpgPXL_20201116_211104343.PORTRAIT-02.ORIGINAL.jpg
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 4:31 PM Post #2,602 of 10,006
Well... as luck would have it..talk about Melz tubes...and look what just dropped in today... 4 weeks in waiting. Not the premium 1578 but a Melz just the same. See how they stack up to the 1578 on hand and especially...to the mystery tube coming in later this week.
PXL_20201116_211051704.PORTRAIT-01.COVER.jpgPXL_20201116_211058412.PORTRAIT-01.COVER.jpgPXL_20201116_211104343.PORTRAIT-02.ORIGINAL.jpg
Just do not get them mixed up and send @sam6550a one of those. 😬
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 4:34 PM Post #2,603 of 10,006
Regarding resoldering pins.. any advice on how this is best done? Received a pair of 1958 Melz, and one is fine I believe, but the other makes loud crackling noises. I am not that experienced with a solder iron, but perhaps with some idea of what to do and not do, I might still give it a go.
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 4:48 PM Post #2,605 of 10,006
Regarding resoldering pins.. any advice on how this is best done? Received a pair of 1958 Melz, and one is fine I believe, but the other makes loud crackling noises. I am not that experienced with a solder iron, but perhaps with some idea of what to do and not do, I might still give it a go.
@Paladin79 is the expert on this task. I use a Hakko FR-301 desoldering tool, along with a Weller soldering iron, Kester liquid flux, and Kester #66/44 0.031" solder. @Paladin79 posted a procedure summary on this thread a while ago, but I could not locate it. Suggest you contact him.
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 4:48 PM Post #2,606 of 10,006
One unknown in the equation is all I can handle. I would like to hear @JKDJedi's results of his comparison of the "special" Melz to his find.
I have a pretty good idea since I already own some of those Melz with round micas. :L3000:
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 4:56 PM Post #2,607 of 10,006
@Paladin79 is the expert on this task. I use a Hakko FR-301 desoldering tool, along with a Weller soldering iron, Kester liquid flux, and Kester #66/44 0.031" solder. @Paladin79 posted a procedure summary on this thread a while ago, but I could not locate it. Suggest you contact him.
As much as I resist following his advice, :ksc75smile: @bcowen suggested not long ago that I should do a Word document with photos showing all the steps. I will try to work on that this week. This would be a very easy solution and save me a lot of typing and hunting for photos. Sam certainly knows what he is doing on this, as does this Cowen fellow.
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 4:57 PM Post #2,608 of 10,006
Regarding resoldering pins.. any advice on how this is best done? Received a pair of 1958 Melz, and one is fine I believe, but the other makes loud crackling noises. I am not that experienced with a solder iron, but perhaps with some idea of what to do and not do, I might still give it a go.

You have a very fine year for Melz, got photos? Perforated plate or solid?
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 5:35 PM Post #2,610 of 10,006
They are perforated (see below). I found some of your comments in this thread about solder replacement. And realize I need to practice on duds first. Some photos of the process would still be very useful.

melz.jpg
Those are indeed excellent tubes. I will go back through my photos and help where I can. I have ‘58’s with both solid and perforated plates, Jedi will hear a solid plate soon.
 

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