The Reference 6J5 Thread (L63, 6C5, 12J5, 6P5, etc.)

Feb 12, 2022 at 11:13 PM Post #1,981 of 4,602
LOL!! Mine:

Wife: Don't they make stereo stuff that doesn't need thingies that have to be replaced every week?
Me: The tubes in my (ahem) "stereo" don't have to be replaced every week, they last a very long time.
Wife: Then why do you have so many?
Me: Why do you have so many shoes?
Wife: You answered a question with a question.
Me: The question is the answer.
Wife: I'm going shopping.

:laughing:
Wife: You answered a question with a question.
Me: I thought we were in an improv scene.
 
Feb 12, 2022 at 11:15 PM Post #1,982 of 4,602
Wife: Honey - why do you need so many of those little thingamajigs?
Me: I am looking for sonic perfection.
Wife: More tubes? Why?
Me: These aren’t tubes, they’re pre-solid state. AND I’m saving $$$ in buying them now versus later ! 😏
 
Feb 12, 2022 at 11:29 PM Post #1,983 of 4,602
Wife: More tubes? Why?
Me: These aren’t tubes, they’re pre-solid state. AND I’m saving $$$ in buying them now versus later ! 😏
Yes, there is always that little inner voice that whispers: Buy them now! They always go up in price! It's a good investment!

Problem with me is that I don't mind buying, but I hate selling. Perhaps because of a couple of difficult buyers in the past that gave me trouble...
 
Feb 12, 2022 at 11:48 PM Post #1,984 of 4,602
LOL!! Mine:

Wife: Don't they make stereo stuff that doesn't need thingies that have to be replaced every week?
Me: The tubes in my (ahem) "stereo" don't have to be replaced every week, they last a very long time.
Wife: Then why do you have so many?
Me: Why do you have so many shoes?
Wife: You answered a question with a question.
Me: The question is the answer.
Wife: I'm going shopping.
Me: Me too 🤗
:laughing:
 
Feb 14, 2022 at 1:23 PM Post #1,985 of 4,602
My wife “A package arrived from Europe today?”
Me “Awesome must be the adaptors I ordered from Deyan”
My wife “You are such a geek.”
On that note adaptors are here which mean it’s time to test out some type 37 philco globes? balloons?
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Only have about an hour on them. Definately some background hum independent of volume level. Gain doesn’t seem to be much of an issue. Normal listening levels about 12/46 with 6j5s. These seems to need about 16-18 to get to the same level. Both tubes are pretty microphonic but it seems to settle down the longer they are in. Hoping the hum will go away with some burn in time. The first thing that jumps out about these at first is a holographic staging. Second thing that stands out is some really nice decay not just on snare hits but also on bass guitar. I will try and get some pictures of internals later on tonight.
 
Feb 14, 2022 at 1:42 PM Post #1,986 of 4,602
Yes, there is always that little inner voice that whispers: Buy them now! They always go up in price! It's a good investment!

Problem with me is that I don't mind buying, but I hate selling. Perhaps because of a couple of difficult buyers in NC in the past that gave me trouble...
FTFY…[Reg. TM; © bcowen: 2021]
 
Feb 14, 2022 at 2:01 PM Post #1,987 of 4,602
My wife “A package arrived from Europe today?”
Me “Awesome must be the adaptors I ordered from Deyan”
My wife “You are such a geek.”
On that note adaptors are here which mean it’s time to test out some type 37 philco globes? balloons?
4DFEA488-7773-47CE-986D-B49CF55F2DCA.jpeg
Only have about an hour on them. Definately some background hum independent of volume level. Gain doesn’t seem to be much of an issue. Normal listening levels about 12/46 with 6j5s. These seems to need about 16-18 to get to the same level. Both tubes are pretty microphonic but it seems to settle down the longer they are in. Hoping the hum will go away with some burn in time. The first thing that jumps out about these at first is a holographic staging. Second thing that stands out is some really nice decay not just on snare hits but also on bass guitar. I will try and get some pictures of internals later on tonight.

Most Philco tubes of that era were manufactured by Sylvania. And I hope they will settle down for you. However, in my Glenn, 37's were always too noisy. I had better luck with 27's, but not much. lol :)
 
Feb 14, 2022 at 2:05 PM Post #1,988 of 4,602
My wife “A package arrived from Europe today?”
Me “Awesome must be the adaptors I ordered from Deyan”
My wife “You are such a geek.”
On that note adaptors are here which mean it’s time to test out some type 37 philco globes? balloons?
You can't let her get away with that. Remind her of the last chick flick she watched. That's geeky. 🤣
 
Feb 14, 2022 at 7:47 PM Post #1,989 of 4,602
My type 37 experiment went much better with a pair of RCA radiotron.
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These have black round plates while the Philco have mesh plates that make me think of 6c5.
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A side by side. Similar internals but different plates.
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Happy to report that the RCAs have no hum.
 
Feb 14, 2022 at 7:59 PM Post #1,990 of 4,602
You can't let her get away with that. Remind her of the last chick flick she watched. That's geeky. 🤣
Could be worse. I could be this guy :)
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Feb 14, 2022 at 8:11 PM Post #1,991 of 4,602
You can't let her get away with that. Remind her of the last chick flick she watched made you watch with her. That's geeky cruelty. 🤣
FTFY…[Reg. TM; © bcowen: 2021]
 
Feb 15, 2022 at 8:15 AM Post #1,992 of 4,602
My type 37 experiment went much better with a pair of RCA radiotron.
BE171190-FBCA-4801-A1C2-9E97A21CF3F1.jpeg
5FDF22AB-4E6B-45AF-A074-D6B04C6B8FEA.jpeg
These have black round plates while the Philco have mesh plates that make me think of 6c5.
0E1A1248-403F-40E7-A839-6FE3A9E5B8A3.jpeg
A side by side. Similar internals but different plates.
4D23CD19-DDD5-4ED2-814D-BACC80C53A37.jpeg
Happy to report that the RCAs have no hum.

Nice looking tubes
 
Feb 15, 2022 at 8:21 AM Post #1,993 of 4,602
My type 37 experiment went much better with a pair of RCA radiotron.
BE171190-FBCA-4801-A1C2-9E97A21CF3F1.jpeg
5FDF22AB-4E6B-45AF-A074-D6B04C6B8FEA.jpeg
These have black round plates while the Philco have mesh plates that make me think of 6c5.
0E1A1248-403F-40E7-A839-6FE3A9E5B8A3.jpeg
A side by side. Similar internals but different plates.
4D23CD19-DDD5-4ED2-814D-BACC80C53A37.jpeg
Happy to report that the RCAs have no hum.

Glad to see you went for it! Great looking tubes, love those mesh plates.
 
Feb 15, 2022 at 10:56 AM Post #1,994 of 4,602
Most 'mesh', or perforated sheet metal, in tubes is some kind of screen, isn't it? Real mesh plates are quite rare if I'm not mistaken. The Philco up above has a genuine mesh plate while I think the Fivre 6C5GT, for example, has a perforated screen of some sort. It is usually called mesh plate anyway since we like mesh as it is cool.
 
Feb 15, 2022 at 11:01 AM Post #1,995 of 4,602
Most 'mesh', or perforated sheet metal, in tubes is some kind of screen, isn't it? Real mesh plates are quite rare if I'm not mistaken. The Philco up above has a genuine mesh plate while I think the Fivre 6C5GT, for example, has a perforated screen of some sort. It is usually called mesh plate anyway since we like mesh as it is cool.

Correct, many times it is a screen, as in the 6C5 tubes, mesh plate is less common, seen in very old tubes, typically from the 1930-40s.

But that won't stop eBay sellers from advertising them as "mesh plate". They know there is audiophile voodoo beliefs around mesh plate triodes.
 

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