I should have mentioned that my Apple Watch is my first stop for control. Skipping tracks, etc.I understand your point, Mouseman. But in my opinion, for this use case I prefer a DAP.
If you are at home, sitting in the train or a bus, this is fine. If, like me, you're riding a bike, it is uncomfortable to pull out the phone out of a pocket, wake up the screen and change tracks. It could also be dangerous at times...
When mountaineering, as long as I stay on the same folder/album, I can switch tracks blindly, and this is really convenient.
When I was using the Sansa Clip+ I had all of this in a really tiny format; if there was today the same DAP with a seamless BT receiver function, and same battery life it would be even better
Too bad Sansa ditched the Clip+, because without Rockbox, the last iterations were not as user friendly...
But your posts make me more confident for the 5K
But yes, I have a HiBy R5 that I also use a lot, but to be honest, my 5K connected via cable or BT gets a lot more use.