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I guess we are all a bunch of fools who like bad quality bass. I take it you owned a Z1R and sold it? Now I am going by audio memory as I sold my TH900, but Idon't hear any large discrepency is taughtness or slam with the Z1R. Ultimately the mids on the TH900 were a little too distant for me, not very bad, but not what I was hoping for and the treble was a tad challenging at times so when looking at the totality of the package the Z1R is the winner for me.
Not necessarily fools, just deaf
Just out of curiosity what material do you listen to and what levels do you listen at. My experience with these headphones is not at all as you describe it and while I don't drive the headphone to extreme ear damaging levels I have punished them significantly.
Let me reference my post from the TH900 thread for a few examples.
I know I'm not the only one getting tired of the effusive praise being bestowed on the mediocre Sony flagship, but I'd like to challenge this perception anyway that the Sony is comparable to the TH900 in bass; after comparing them head to head for a month, the Sony is a joke in terms of bass impact, tightness and overall power next to the TH900. TH900 has a much cleaner sub-bass and is more visceral & dynamic. It didn't even take 2 songs for me to see this, and some of the distortion measurements posted on other sites back this view up. If anyone has these two headphones, try listening to Massive Attack- Angel, Telarc 1812 Overture (cannonfire section), Elderscrolls Skyrim Main theme where its easily audible.
Frankly the Sony has mediocre technicalities overall, inferior to the TH900. When I read in a few review that the Z1R midrange is superior to the TH900, I find it hard not to roll my eyes. Z1R midrange is MORE recessed than the TH900 when you listen to any massed vocals and has a truly ugly upper mid-range ringing characteristic that makes electric guitars sound very odd on occasion and ruins complex vocal harmonies. Female vocals are frankly a bore on this headphone, it has the honour of making me actually fall asleep while listening to Loreena McKennit- Live at the Alhambra, so uninvolving and subdued the presentation.
About the only genre I'd take the Sony over the TH900 is heavily processed pop music with close-miked, male-heavy vocals, where its lower midrange richness relative to TH900 is an advantage, and its disproportionately wide-yet-shallow headstage has no bearing on the non-existent imaging in this music. Ah, thats another thing the TH900 does much better than the Sony, the staging is much more proportionate in height, depth and width next to the lop-sided mess of the Sony, which takes the oft-mentioned HD800 bugbear of having a "too wide" soundstage and owns it outright.
I do listen fairly loud sometimes in excess of 90db. My hearing has been tested excellent though, and I can hear up to 18.5k