[beowulf]

Apologies if I went off subject a bit, however Sony's pedigree in hi end audio IMO is worthy of inclusion.

 
Very interesting contribution. Getting more nd more curious about their new line of reference products.

 

[musicday]

Still would like very much to know how this will compare with Ether C Flow for any kind of music and any portable device.

 

[thatonenoob]

Still would like very much to know how this will compare with Ether C Flow for any kind of music and any portable device.

Same here.  I'm not a huge fan of the original Ether C, but I do look forward to the Ether C Flow.

 

[musicday]

The build quality of the Ether C Flow is great in my opinion,and i really really liked the speed and the huge soundstage of this headphone.
Now if Sony headphone can do better than that for sure we will have a winner.

 

[thanatosguan]

I find it quite odd that people here seem to think Sony has no hi-end pedigree in audio. Probably has something to do with the MDR-Z7 flop and their recent silence in the audio market. But in Asia, Sony's ES and R line are considered as the epitome of audio engineering, and we're not even talking about the professional grade monsters like C-800G.

It's also quite interesting that while the MDR-SA series are considered "tin cans" in the United States, they are held in very high regard in the Asian markets.

I hope MDR-Z1R lives up to their flagship standards. They've even included images of R10 and Q010 in the engineer's interview. I believe this is a sign that this is a serious attempt at tackling the extreme high-end.

 

[pietcux]

I find it quite odd that people here seem to think Sony has no hi-end pedigree in audio. Probably has something to do with the MDR-Z7 flop and their recent silence in the audio market. But in Asia, Sony's ES and R line are considered as the epitome of audio engineering, and we're not even talking about the professional grade monsters like C-800G.

It's also quite interesting that while the MDR-SA series are considered "tin cans" in the United States, they are held in very high regard in the Asian markets.

I hope MDR-Z1R lives up to their flagship standards. They've even included images of R10 and Q010 in the engineer's interview. I believe this is a sign that this is a serious attempt at tackling the extreme high-end.

Well in Germany Sony seems to just have no relationship to High End Audio Stores. If you want to sell cans like those one over here, you need to be in those store for people to demo your stuff. I can even demo the LCD series in my town, or the Macintosh/Beyer bit not even the Z7 because it retails too high for the big sores that we have here.

 

[Whitigir]

I find it quite odd that people here seem to think Sony has no hi-end pedigree in audio. Probably has something to do with the MDR-Z7 flop and their recent silence in the audio market. But in Asia, Sony's ES and R line are considered as the epitome of audio engineering, and we're not even talking about the professional grade monsters like C-800G.

It's also quite interesting that while the MDR-SA series are considered "tin cans" in the United States, they are held in very high regard in the Asian markets.

I hope MDR-Z1R lives up to their flagship standards. They've even included images of R10 and Q010 in the engineer's interview. I believe this is a sign that this is a serious attempt at tackling the extreme high-end.

You seem to forgot that Asian and American has different taste of music and preferences

 

[thanatosguan]

Well in Germany Sony seems to just have no relationship to High End Audio Stores. If you want to sell cans like those one over here, you need to be in those store for people to demo your stuff. I can even demo the LCD series in my town, or the Macintosh/Beyer bit not even the Z7 because it retails too high for the big sores that we have here.

Sony was not in a good shape these days I have to say. They are launching products left and right but you can't find them anywhere. I've been to one of their Sony Stores and tried the MDR-EX1000. The cables are all crumbled together and overall looks really crappy. Very ironic considering build-quality wise, EX1000 is one of the best.
 
Z7 retails too high? Is it because of some tax issue? I believe HD800s is much more expensive than the Z7. Though admittedly Germany is Sennheiser's home turf.

 

[thanatosguan]

You seem to forgot that Asian and American has different taste of music and preferences

True. But Sony's brand image is quite polarized. Probably have something to do with them pumping out all kinds of cheap and low quality earbuds.

 

[Whitigir]

True. But Sony's brand image is quite polarized. Probably have something to do with them pumping out all kinds of cheap and low quality earbuds.

Inbthe while everyone else had been milking this cash cow...aka Beats. If Sony was serious enough, beats wouldnt have it foots on the market

 

[thatonenoob]

Inbthe while everyone else had been milking this cash cow...aka Beats. If Sony was serious enough, beats wouldnt have it foots on the market

Unfortunately, I don't think they could quite get the marketing right for that to happen.  Their idea of "hip" isn't quite right...it's a little off in fact.  

 

[purk]

  Unfortunately, I don't think they could quite get the marketing right for that to happen.  Their idea of "hip" isn't quite right...it's a little off in fact.  

All they have to do is to gold-plated the Z7 and distributed it to the athletes free of charge.  Hell these guys will use Sony because it is much better built and sound a good bit better.  Seven  or eight years ago, it was all Bose Quiet comfort...now it is all about Beats. 

 

[pietcux]

  Sony was not in a good shape these days I have to say. They are launching products left and right but you can't find them anywhere. I've been to one of their Sony Stores and tried the MDR-EX1000. The cables are all crumbled together and overall looks really crappy. Very ironic considering build-quality wise, EX1000 is one of the best.
 
Z7 retails too high? Is it because of some tax issue? I believe HD800s is much more expensive than the Z7. Though admittedly Germany is Sennheiser's home turf.

​The HD 800 retail much higher, but only in the HighEnd stores. The Z7 is only available on Amazon and some super big retail stores in the major German cities like Berlin, Frankfurt and Hamburg.

 

[fullranger]

I think Apple's market (enormous) has Sony "Beat". Can't account for a blind ( and half deaf) following...

 

[Whitigir]

I think Apple's market (enormous) has Sony "Beat". Can't account for a blind ( and half deaf) following...

Sony is the company that has the largest headphones sale globally, and not Apple. We can not just project the market in the US to the world. To my opinion, it seems that Sony is kind of lost on what they want to achieve, and how they want it.