[LugBug1]

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For me the HD800. The T1 I had was way brighter and edgier in the treble and the mids were not nearly as nice as on the HD800. My HD800 is awesome. 
 
And YES. I also like even the HD650 better than the T1. I first "upgraded" from the HD650 to the T1 but I really did not dig the sound. Then I tried out the HE-500. Better but the HD650 was still more to my liking. But oddly, I enjoy the HD800 quite much. I've had it for a couple of weeks and probably will keep it. The FIRST REAL upgrade from the HD650. Still there are things the HD650 does better than the HD800 (female vocals, euphonic man), but in everything else, HD800 is king.
 
I originally got the T1 first because I heard that the HD800 was worse with treble. But that wasn't true. The treble on the HD800 is quite nice (I use the V-dac II which is quite mellow and the Lake People G100 amp). There was one thing where the T1 excelled and that was dynamics.

I can see the HD800 as a natural upgrade from both the 600/650. They all have the Sennheiser house sound. Only the HD800's are bigger, better, clearer. Though bad recordings will always sound more pleasing on the 650's
 
Also,  the VdacII is a great match for the HD800's. It has a very slight treble roll off and weighty bass. 

 

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I can see the HD800 as a natural upgrade from both the 600/650. They all have the Sennheiser house sound.

What planet are you living on..???

 

[Taliesin]

Any thoughts on schiit Mjolnir+Gungnir vs Burson Conductor vs Woo Audio WA7 vs centrance dacmini PX vs schiit upgraded bifrost + Lyr with HD800

 

[rawrster]

I don't agree that the HD600/650 to the HD800 is a natural step. The HD6x0 share similarities and sound much more alike than different. The HD800 however is a different story. I would like a HD800 equivalent of the HD600 however. I haven't really been able to find an  upgrade for that but the HE6 is somewhat close.
 
I got a new dac incoming so it should replace my Yulong D18 or at least that's the plan. The Mjolnir I'm not sure if that's staying or not. It sounds great with the HD800 but I do wonder about something like a balanced dynalo or maybe a balanced dynahi.

 

[preproman]

The balanced Dynahi may be a bit overkill for the HE800.  At least that's what Kevin G. said.  Maybe the GS-X would be more suitable.

 

[DefQon]

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What planet are you living on..???

lol
 
wink what planet are you living on when you have your coffee hit near midnight?
 
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I don't agree that the HD600/650 to the HD800 is a natural step. The HD6x0 share similarities and sound much more alike than different. The HD800 however is a different story. I would like a HD800 equivalent of the HD600 however. 

+1. The HD800 is a bit of a unique one aye out of the HD600/650 family, even though the HD600's are more neutral than the 800 they still don't have any slight of a resemblance in sound imo. The HD700 is a lost case on the other hand. Good point about the HE-6 being the closest upgrade over the 600 with some sound similarities. 

 

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What planet are you living on..???

Planet espresso or planet coffeebean.

 

[rawrster]

I have my coffee at night
 
 
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The balanced Dynahi may be a bit overkill for the HE800.  At least that's what Kevin G. said.  Maybe the GS-X would be more suitable.

 
Yeah it probably is. Any idea about it for the HE6? I was thinking about the balanced dynalo but probably look into costs and see where my budget is. 

 

[TT600R]

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I don't agree that the HD600/650 to the HD800 is a natural step. The HD6x0 share similarities and sound much more alike than different. The HD800 however is a different story. I would like a HD800 equivalent of the HD600 however. I haven't really been able to find an  upgrade for that but the HE6 is somewhat close.
 
I got a new dac incoming so it should replace my Yulong D18 or at least that's the plan. The Mjolnir I'm not sure if that's staying or not. It sounds great with the HD800 but I do wonder about something like a balanced dynalo or maybe a balanced dynahi.

Why are you getting rid of the D18?
I find it extremely well pairing with the Sennheiser.I have not many dac's to compare with,but this dac/amp combo is definititly a good match in combination with the HD800.
But there is always better ofcoarse.

 

[maarek99]

I meant that the HD800 was an upgrade (from the hd650) in the sense that it does sound better. It still sounds considerably different though to warrant keeping the HD650 around.

 

[rawrster]

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Why are you getting rid of the D18?
I find it extremely well pairing with the Sennheiser.I have not many dac's to compare with,but this dac/amp combo is definititly a good match in combination with the HD800.
But there is always better ofcoarse.
 

My HE6 rig has the Anedio D1 dac but my HD800 has the Yulong D18 dac. My D1 is on a higher level than the D18 so I want something that is as good or better. I will see which is better however before I sell anything however. I will have three dacs with the ESS9018 which will be pretty interesting to see different implementations.

 

[LugBug1]

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What planet are you living on..???

 
But! My point was (and I'm sure most folk knew what I meant.. Is it late sweetheart?) I remember loads of comments when the HD800's came out that they were nothing like the HD650's. And that there was too much of a contrast for peeps looking to upgrade from 600/650. Now after owing them for a few months I find them very like the 650's only better in every area. I've always contributed the Senn's 'house sound' to the 580/600/650's. And now also the HD800's.  
 
There.. Thats not so alien is it?  

 

[palmfish]

I think the HD6XX series has the "old" Sennheiser "house sound" (if there is such a thing), although I personally don't like grouping the 600 and 650 together since I like the 600 so much and dislike the 650.
 
And I think the HD800 is quite different - actually more similar in flavor to the new batch of HD5XX (558 and 598) that were released a couple of years ago. Compared to the HD6XX, they are more airy and open/spacious-sounding headphones. Not at all dark and intimate like the 650 (and to a lesser degree the 600).

 

[LugBug1]

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I think the HD6XX series has the "old" Sennheiser "house sound" (if there is such a thing), although I personally don't like grouping the 600 and 650 together since I like the 600 so much and dislike the 650.
 
And I think the HD800 is quite different - actually more similar in flavor to the new batch of HD5XX (558 and 598) that were released a couple of years ago. Compared to the HD6XX, they are more airy and open/spacious-sounding headphones. Not at all dark and intimate like the 650 (and to a lesser degree the 600).

Yup, The newer Senns have moved to a more airier treble sound but to my ears still have all the traits that I like about Sennheiser. Musicality, non fatiguing yet can be highly resolving. It wasn't that long ago that the 600/650's were described as being airy open/spacious hp's. Only in comparison to the newer and technically better HD800 they now sound congested and intimate. 
 
My ears tell me that the HD800 is an evolvement of the 600/650, different yes, but still from the same family.  

 

[rgs9200m]

I actually think the Audeze LCDs are a more natural progression (and improvement) from the HD600/650.