[nigeljames]

Quote:

Thanks for your opinion but I been dojng this for a long time and I hear major differences and if you happy with your system it is after all you system. In my system the cables make major differences especially interconnects. happy your happy like I said YOMV

 
+1

 

[Cante Ista]

Thanks for your opinion but I been dojng this for a long time and I hear major differences and if you happy with your system it is after all you system. In my system the cables make major differences especially interconnects. happy your happy like I said YOMV

+2. If ur not hearing it, ur gear is not sensitive enough. Or ur ears.....

 

[RustA]

Quote:

+2. If ur not hearing it, ur gear is not sensitive enough. Or ur ears.....

 
As I said - I can hear a slight variation in frequency response... Not any real improvement.
 
If there are MAJOR improvements, it must be measurable... easily.

 

[preproman]

Everything can't be measured.

 

[RustA]

Quote:

Everything can't be measured.

 
Proof?

 

[Solude]

Major is a bit strong of a word for cables.  They make a difference since there are measurable differences in cables themselves but let's not forget that the amp and source have gimpy little copper traces, tons of solder and solid bare copper or inexpensive twisted cable to the jacks.  In the case of transformer output amps... wire wrapped over wire in great lengths.  That 1m interconnect is not making a Major difference.
 
In other news, you are also correct in that RustA's rig couldn't resolve the difference anyway.  But lets not go down the road of selling the idea that a cable can change a rig more than a change in source or amp or can.

 

[kiwikaki]

help, I got HD800 10 hours ago and I can not take my ........ I'm 'only with the mdac
this does not feel any peak on the high ... just would like a little 'more' body ..... I'll find 'an amp.

 

[RustA]

Quote:

Major is a bit strong of a word for cables.  They make a difference since there are measurable differences in cables themselves but let's not forget that the amp and source have gimpy little copper traces, tons of solder and solid bare copper or inexpensive twisted cable to the jacks.  In the case of transformer output amps... wire wrapped over wire in great lengths.  That 1m interconnect is not making a Major difference.
 
In other news, you are also correct in that RustA's rig couldn't resolve the difference anyway.  But lets not go down the road of selling the idea that a cable can change a rig more than a change in source or amp or can.

 
You win, I lost. Congrats!

 

[preproman]

Quote:

 
Proof?

Sound Stage..

 

[maarek99]

Try plugging in some Van Den Hul cables. You will immediately notice a disappearance of treble and more bass. A definite difference, but it's not really neutral.

 

[RustA]

Quote:

Sound Stage..

 
Soundstage is subjective and frequency response dependent (try to play with EQ or crossfeed to find out)... It's not something that you could ever measure objectively, of course.

 

[extrabigmehdi]

Quote:

Sound Stage..

Just switch between the hd800 and any headphone, you'd realize that the soundstage is always  bigger regardless of the cable.
Anyway, who cares of minor difference, that most likely are in your mind ?
People that just want to spend bucketload of money.

 

[RustA]

Quote:

Try plugging in some Van Den Hul cables. You will immediately notice a disappearance of treble and more bass. A definite difference, but it's not really neutral.

 
Difference is not necessarily equal improvement, that's all I am trying to say.
 
Improvement would be something like lower noise level - and not only a change in frequency response. Better synergy is of course possible to hear subjectively but it's not equal to objectively better results.

 

[Maxvla]

Let's change course from cables.

 

[Cante Ista]

Edit.
 
You're right. lets change course.