The New Enleum AMP-23R Amplifier (Successor to Bakoon AMP-13R) Thread

[Naimmuso]

The buchardt sp400 seem to have a huge bass diffusion system on the back, I fear I might need to get them far from the wall and it's not very convenient in a small room, even if it's a bit more long than it's large?

I had mine 400 mm from wall with great results ,it's a bass radiator not a port so no chuffing ,Many Buchardt owners use it near rear wall ,maybe you should investigate .I do know from the Enleum site that 90 dB plus speakers work very well with them but finding one is not easy

 

[Naimmuso]

Its more than sensitivity rating that counts when pairing an amp to speakers. The impedance matters just as much. If the impedance drops far below 4 ohms within the audible frequencies, then the speaker will demand a lot of current and the 23R might not be up to the task.

Yes agreed ,the Raidho is 6 ohms 85 dB bit too much I think yet the buchardts were great at 88db and 6 ohms

 

[jmanpd]

Just got the Wharfedale Linton 85th Anniversary speakers. They are incredible with the Enleum. 90db with nominal of 6 ohms. Highly recommend for those with an enleum and are looking for high end speakers for a decent price.

On high gain, it doesn't even touch 12 o'clock

 

[trh322]

surely you could've gotten way better speakers amp for 6000usd, this is not decent price LMAO

 

[jmanpd]

surely you could've gotten way better speakers amp for 6000usd, this is not decent price LMAO

100%. I wouldn't have gotten it at 6k usd either. Bought mine used for 3k. Using it to power my used Susvaras and Utopias too

 

[trh322]

meh, still overpriced, the Cen.Grand 9i-906 amp uses same mosfets as this one but twice as many and is fully balanced design (this one is not) and way cheaper. Also would rather use speakers amp for speakers not headphones amp LOL

 

[jmanpd]

meh, still overpriced, the Cen.Grand 9i-906 amp uses same mosfets as this one but twice as many and is fully balanced design (this one is not) and way cheaper. Also would rather use speakers amp for speakers not headphones amp LOL

Ah I see I've fallen for a trap. To each their own man, good luck on your audio journey

 

[Naimmuso]

Just got the Wharfedale Linton 85th Anniversary speakers. They are incredible with the Enleum. 90db with nominal of 6 ohms. Highly recommend if anyone is looking for high end sound for a decent price.

On high gain, it doesn't even touch 12 o'clock

The Enleum is a stunning amp ,speaker and headphone ,enjoy

 

[Solrq8]

Hi everyone i am considering buying enleum 23RMH or 23R for my susvara my Amp sennheiser hdv820 i don't think it powers it well but it synergize very well with my hd800s i like the V shaped sound and big sound stage does this amp improve the dynamics+bass+ bigger stage+ but with a recessed vocals for the susvara i also have meze empyrean og and i hate it it has very dark treble and muddy sounding with very load vocals it is so fatiguing unlike my 800s with hdv820 vocals sound far and recessed a bit am sorry guys what i am trying to say is most reviews that i have seen said it is a warm sounding amp for 23R with smoothed out treble does it mean the trebels gonna sound a bit dark like the og empyreans?

Chain:
Headphones:
hd800s, susvara , og empyrean // planning to buy 1266 TC after buying the new amp for susvara

Amps: hdv820 , ifi micro idsd BL

Dac: denafrips ares ii

 

[Tubewin]

Goldensound may be correct about the Enleum being sensitive to input voltage. I put a Jensen xlr to rca converter between the Holo May and the Enleum which converts the signal from +4db to -10db, and it sounds noticeably better than it did before. Don't know how much to attribute it to using the May's xlr outputs and how much it's due to what Goldensound was saying about the Enleum:

"To me the 23R sounded notably better when the DAC feeding it had about 8-10dB of DSP headroom/volume control applied, with things coming across less ‘dense’, slightly more neutral, and having better clarity of separation between elements.

If you have a 23R it’s worth playing about with this, you can pretty much ‘tune’ the amp by increasing/decreasing your DAC volume between -0dB and -10dB (assuming your DAC outputs about 2V on RCA)."

Since the May put's out 5.8v xlr and 2.8v rca, the Jensen converter really matches the system well by lowering the signal strength into the Enleum. Or it could be that the May's xlr out is just a better quality output than it's rca. Perhaps both the Enleum and the May benefit this.

Edit: I went back to just the rca's. The Jensen transformer was a little lean on the bass and the vocals were not as prominent.

 

[Solrq8]

Hi! I got my long awaited Enleum HPA-23RM!


It is a little bit smaller in dimension, and much thinner than CSL 5520MK2.


23RM on top of its bigger brother 23R.

Portable amps with similar current output circuits.

I can say that 23RM has the same tuning and sound character of its bigger brother 23R on voltage output, but with 30-50% output power of 23R.

It drives Susvara quite well with voltage output IMO. I had no problem driving Susvara to an adequate listening volume with sufficient dynamics. But there is much less headroom in 23RM than 23R, due to a lower output..

Current mode boosts subbass and expands the soundstage. But it is good for certain DD headphones and IEMs. Namely, ones from Sennheiser and Fostex. Susvara sounds a little weird with current output. Highs are too elevated, and bass becomes bloated. Separaration between instruments feels too excessive.
Edit: After changing the IC cable to a 3.5mm single ended type, the above issue with Susvara on current output has been resolved. I used a custom made 4.4mm balanced to 2 RCA pure silver IC cable before, and it seems that 23RM has issues when receiving high voltage signal from a balanced output. When using 23RM with a single ended 3.5mm IC, Susvara sounds great without any issues on current output!

Anyway I am having a great time with HPA-23RM. I would recommend 23RM to anyone seeking a powerful portable amp to use with power hungry, full sized headphones

Hi I know it's a year old post sorry, do remember if the Enleum HPA-23RM the small guy powers the Susvara as well as the 23R with its current mode am thinking of buying one of them for just susvara and 1266TC.

 

[Naimmuso]

Hi I know it's a year old post sorry, do remember if the Enleum HPA-23RM the small guy powers the Susvara as well as the 23R with its current mode am thinking of buying one of them for just susvara and 1266TC.

There are reviews in you tube that are very favourable to the use of all power hungry headphones on this headphone amp ,check them out ,looks an awesome amp ,I owned the 23 r and that is a beast

 

[Matez]

surely you could've gotten way better speakers amp for 6000usd, this is not decent price LMAO

I have the AMP-23R here and some other amps (i.e. $35k monos which do 55wpc in class A). With certain speakers the Enleum quite frankly is spectacular and competitively priced considering what it does. It just needs particular speakers to work its magic. That's all there is to it really.

 

[alekc]

I have the AMP-23R here and some other amps (i.e. $35k monos which do 55wpc in class A). With certain speakers the Enleum quite frankly is spectacular and competitively priced considering what it does. It just needs particular speakers to work its magic. That's all there is to it really.

@Matez may I ask which particular speakers you are talking about? I'm a hunt for a speaker amp and still haven't decided yet which way to go.

 

[Matez]

@Matez may I ask which particular speakers you are talking about? I'm a hunt for a speaker amp and still haven't decided yet which way to go.

It's not really about a particular model, but a product category. Enleum works incredibly well with high-efficiency designs and full-range drivers in particular. There are mechanical reasons why this is the case. So if I had space to accommodate a floorstanding speaker for Enleum, I'd probably spend my money on a crossoverless full-range driver on a large rear transmission line. Where I live we have a company that makes this stuff, it's called Cube Audio. Their Nenuphar was exceptional on Enleum, but any other Cube speaker in the same category would work well too.