The "I don't like the 'Sennheiser sound'" Thread

[Jahn]

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Originally Posted by wakeride74 This may be a bit off topic but since the ones that seem not to care for the Senn sound often prefer Grado let me ask: do you like the look of one over the other better?? I have yet to hear any Grados but they look like something left over from the 40's and don't seem like they would be very comfy.

In this very thread you will see a pic of the HD650, and my Darth Grado HP2. I think the HP2 right now is even more comfy than the HD650. As for looks, check those pics out - the HP2 looks evil and about to kick the HD650's butt! I love that look!

 

[wakeride74]

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Originally Posted by Jahn In this very thread you will see a pic of the HD650, and my Darth Grado HP2. I think the HP2 right now is even more comfy than the HD650. As for looks, check those pics out - the HP2 looks evil and about to kick the HD650's butt! I love that look!

Cheater! Those are Beyer pads!

 

[hentai]

Well sometimes i can't see why grado lovers won't appreciate senn and vice versa... when looking for thrill , the raw emotion of music , grado is the preferred one. For relaxed listening , sennheiser does the job well. You can't be looking for thrill all the time? Neither you are at a calm and relaxed mood all the time... Some music , grado really shines like the tool song 'Tick and leeches' 'Oh My God!!! has someone pressed the fast forward button ???' Its so fast and eye blinking impactful drums sound at the opening of the song with the grados.

 

[Jahn]

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Originally Posted by wakeride74 Cheater! Those are Beyer pads!

I'm a cheater cheater pumpkin eater! Those aren't just Beyer earpads - check out the Beyer headband too! The great thing is you can snap on all that stuff with no alteration to the original can. Take off the Beyer pads, or the Cpads, or the headband pad- snap it all off, and you have an untouched stock can!

The great thing about Grados is that they can be bent, prodded, modded, whatever, to suit your level of comfort (or even sound signature, when switching pads!) You might think they are ugly and look like they came from the 40's, but they are flexible enough to adapt to any modern application out there!

 

[Aliacha]

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Originally Posted by Jahn the HP2 looks evil and about to kick the HD650's butt! I love that look!

Stop calling my 650's wussy

They have feelings and stuff.

Anyways, do the c-pads make the grados circumaural and change the sound at all? Or do they just give your ears the plush pillows to sleep on? My ears have been raw the past week just because of those bowls while the 650s are a relief to me.

 

[Jahn]

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Originally Posted by Aliacha Stop calling my 650's wussy They have feelings and stuff. Anyways, do the c-pads make the grados circumaural and change the sound at all? Or do they just give your ears the plush pillows to sleep on? My ears have been raw the past week just because of those bowls while the 650s are a relief to me.

Yep the Cpads are circumaural, and yes they do change the sound of the Grados, as do all pads. Whether you like the sound or not is up to your personal preference! (and yes they are plush pillows now)

 

[PFJ]

I'm thinking it all comes down to ear sensitivity. I find no 'veil' with my 580 Sennheiser sound, but found the 225's unbearably harsh for extended listening, and that seems to be fairly common with people who like Senns the best.

In that regard it makes perfect sense people who prefer Grados find the Senns veiled. The aggressive Grado sound is moderated down to 'just right' by their own ears. The less aggressive Senn sound when moderated down ends up as a 'veil' to them.

 

[kin0kin]

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Originally Posted by PFJ I'm thinking it all comes down to ear sensitivity. I find no 'veil' with my 580 Sennheiser sound, but found the 225's unbearably harsh for extended listening, and that seems to be fairly common with people who like Senns the best. In that regard it makes perfect sense people who prefer Grados find the Senns veiled. The aggressive Grado sound is moderated down to 'just right' by their own ears. The less aggressive Senn sound when moderated down ends up as a 'veil' to them.

actually, the senn does sound veil when compared to the grados. but it may be due to the larger sound stage. the grados are upfront, pretty much some simple facts. the grados can really be harsh, especially with the bowls...i like them with the comfies...it makes them more sennheiser-like

I really like them both, they have different presentation.

 

[EdipisReks]

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Originally Posted by JefferyK Grados have a lot of punch and a lot of detail. But don't confuse punch and detail with accurate sound reproduction. Where Sennheiser trumps Grado is timbre: Instruments sound like actual instruments. Strings, acoustic guitars, and drums, for example, sound more real via Sennheiser headphones. Jeffery

have you heard the HP-2 or PS-1?

 

[kyrie]

Another one of these debates?

For me, I prefer Senns. Not so much because I particularly like Senns, but more because I dislike Grados.

For two reasons. One, lack of soundstage. Which is totally my preference, and doesn't necessarily apply for anyone else. But I like soundstage. Could definitely live with a small soundstage, but what Grados provide is no soundstage. At least for my ears.

Two, midbass hump. Grados, including the HP-series, have a midbass hump that is, to me, unbearable. And it seems that I'm one a few who hear it that way, because I don't often hear people complaining about Grados' bass.

 

[l_simon_l]

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Originally Posted by kyrie Two, midbass hump. Grados, including the HP-series, have a midbass hump that is, to me, unbearable. And it seems that I'm one a few who hear it that way, because I don't often hear people complaining about Grados' bass.

That's funny. The one thing that annoys me when going from my RS-1 to my HD-600 is the midbass hump of the HD-600s

 

[Jahn]

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Originally Posted by l_simon_l That's funny. The one thing that annoys me when going from my RS-1 to my HD-600 is the midbass hump of the HD-600s

Yep that's odd, if anything I wish the HP-2 had MORE of a midbass hump, lol!

 

[kyrie]

Oh, Senns have a midbass "hump" too, no doubt about that. But Grados and Senns have two totally different types of "humps."

The Senn "hump" is more like a "hill," starting from low bass and ending at upper bass, from about 20 Hz to 100 Hz.

The Grado "hump" is a true "hump" of sorts, with a strong peak near 50 Hz. This is what bothers me.

While the Senn bass exaggerates the midbass across its entire frequency, the Grado bass has a strong, concentrated midbass peak that stands out, which is very bothersome. At least, I hear it that way. If it weren't for this, I could enjoy Grados just as much as Senns, though in a different way and for different music.