The future of FiiO's AMP&DAC --Written on the day when FiiO passed the MFi Certification Program
Aug 6, 2016 at 5:40 PM Post #31 of 51
BTW, APPLE now asked all MFi products must includes a LAM ( lightning audio module ) , remote control keys and microphone if it has headphone out jack. it means that there will have not similar products like the SONY PHA-1/2/3 in the future.


too sad. 


Any more news?
 
Aug 7, 2016 at 6:43 AM Post #32 of 51
currently we have some projects on the way as below:
 
1, i1, which designed for iPhone 7 which removed the 3.5 mm headphone jack. we will send to Apple to test it and the ETA is Dec. it is connect to the lightning connector and provide a 3.5mm headphone
 
out and microphone,  play/pause, vol+/-. 
 
2, Q5, we redesign the shape of Q5 and still talk with Apple cause they told us that all the new MFi products must includes LAM ( lightning audio module ) so it can't supports Hi-Res music .
 
3, A5, the upgrade model of E12/E12A, should be released next month.
 
 
 
BTW, we are worry about the market of portable amp, dac , seems people will more like to buy DAPs 
 
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Aug 7, 2016 at 8:42 AM Post #33 of 51
  currently we have some projects on the way as below:
 
1, i1, which designed for iPhone 7 which removed the 3.5 mm headphone jack. we will send to Apple to test it and the ETA is Dec. it is connect to the lightning connector and provide a 3.5mm headphone
 
out and microphone,  play/pause, vol+/-. 
 
2, Q5, we redesign the shape of Q5 and still talk with Apple cause they told us that all the new MFi products must includes LAM ( lightning audio module ) so it can't supports Hi-Res music .
 
3, A5, the upgrade model of E12/E12A, should be released next month.
 
 
 
BTW, we are worry about the market of portable amp, dac , seems people will more like to buy DAPs 


Thank you very much
 
I personally think DAC/AMP will still be important market, esp for the iPhone 7 users
 
Aug 7, 2016 at 9:01 AM Post #34 of 51
 
Thank you very much
 
I personally think DAC/AMP will still be important market, esp for the iPhone 7 users

 
 
but we can't make the DAC/AMP similar with SONY PHA-2/3 which can supports 192/24 and DSD with iPhone. 
 
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Aug 7, 2016 at 10:48 AM Post #35 of 51
  currently we have some projects on the way as below:
 
1, i1, which designed for iPhone 7 which removed the 3.5 mm headphone jack. we will send to Apple to test it and the ETA is Dec. it is connect to the lightning connector and provide a 3.5mm headphone
 
out and microphone,  play/pause, vol+/-. 
 
2, Q5, we redesign the shape of Q5 and still talk with Apple cause they told us that all the new MFi products must includes LAM ( lightning audio module ) so it can't supports Hi-Res music .
 
3, A5, the upgrade model of E12/E12A, should be released next month.
 
 
 
BTW, we are worry about the market of portable amp, dac , seems people will more like to buy DAPs 

 
Yes, James, I do agree.  I see more interest in android-based DAPs, especially with a unique design/look to stand out from smartphones crowd (would love to see elements of your just announced final Q5 design implemented in 2nd gen of X7
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).  In my opinion the big issue with portable amps/dacs is still the lack of transport control.  After you mount the dac/amp to your phone with rubber bands which block your touch screen or even if you use a more permanent way to attach it to the case (why not implement one of those sticky gel pads?) - you still have to turn the screen on to play/pause and to skip/scroll.  I miss the days of E18 where you can be in full control of the playback without turning the phone on...
 
Aug 7, 2016 at 11:10 AM Post #36 of 51
   
 
but we can't make the DAC/AMP similar with SONY PHA-2/3 which can supports 192/24 and DSD with iPhone. 


Bummer oh well. Sorry to hear that but I guess Apple is being a pain in the rear
 
Aug 7, 2016 at 11:47 AM Post #37 of 51
   
Yes, James, I do agree.  I see more interest in android-based DAPs, especially with a unique design/look to stand out from smartphones crowd (would love to see elements of your just announced final Q5 design implemented in 2nd gen of X7
wink.gif
).  In my opinion the big issue with portable amps/dacs is still the lack of transport control.  After you mount the dac/amp to your phone with rubber bands which block your touch screen or even if you use a more permanent way to attach it to the case (why not implement one of those sticky gel pads?) - you still have to turn the screen on to play/pause and to skip/scroll.  I miss the days of E18 where you can be in full control of the playback without turning the phone on...

 
 
yes, that is the problem. and I can see this sub forum are losting people.
 
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Aug 8, 2016 at 6:53 AM Post #38 of 51
yes, that is the problem. and I can see this sub forum are losting people.


This is the "amps" subforum, which is properly for amps with no DACs. Plenty of talk about DAC/amps in the hot "portable source gear" forum... Awhile ago judging from thread activity you'd think the Mojo the DAC/amp was selling more than all DAPs combined :rolleyes:
 
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Aug 10, 2016 at 3:35 AM Post #39 of 51
This is the "amps" subforum, which is properly for amps with no DACs. Plenty of talk about DAC/amps in the hot "portable source gear" forum... Awhile ago judging from thread activity you'd think the Mojo the DAC/amp was selling more than all DAPs combined
rolleyes.gif

 
 
thanks! we will see how the market change when iPhone7 finally remove the 3.5mm headphone jack !
 
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Aug 27, 2016 at 8:10 AM Post #42 of 51
currently we have some projects on the way as below:

1, i1, which designed for iPhone 7 which removed the 3.5 mm headphone jack. we will send to Apple to test it and the ETA is Dec. it is connect to the lightning connector and provide a 3.5mm headphone

out and microphone,  play/pause, vol+/-. 

2, Q5, we redesign the shape of Q5 and still talk with Apple cause they told us that all the new MFi products must includes LAM ( lightning audio module ) so it can't supports Hi-Res music .

3, A5, the upgrade model of E12/E12A, should be released next month.



BTW, we are worry about the market of portable amp, dac , seems people will more like to buy DAPs 


With regard to the A5, do you have any details on specs or expected price or release date etc. I have the E12 and was looking to upgrade to the E12A, would I be better off waiting for the A5?

Thanks
 
Sep 10, 2016 at 11:10 AM Post #44 of 51
@JamesFiiO

Does i1 have an amp as well or only DAC?
 

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