[teknorob23]

Audio applications: The MI 1005 reduce the transmission of low frequency alternating currents (AC hum) over the network connection. I have noticed noise without the Baaske. Just saying

It all want away putting it front of the switch. But this time I have fiber cables so I will put it last because I want to keep the signal clean after transmission ether to fiber, just before the streamer.

If you can hear in improvement great, but are you saying that you have an audible"humming" sound when you listen to streaming playback, when you are not using this device?

 

[ThanatosVI]

Did anyone here try the network acoustics Eno or the newer Muon? (or ideally both and can compare?)

I read about them ~1-2 years ago, back then there still was a copper and silver version of the Eno, of which now only one is left.

 

[bpcans]

Did anyone here try the network acoustics Eno or the newer Muon? (or ideally both and can compare?)

I read about them ~1-2 years ago, back then there still was a copper and silver version of the Eno, of which now only one is left.

I’ve had a Network Acoustics eno Streaming System in my listening chain for some time now, and I couldn’t be happier with what it does. https://www.networkacoustics.com/shop/eno-streaming-system/. A couple of forever years ago when the pandemic started, I knew that internet music streaming was how I wanted to setup my system. So I began reading and asking questions on this head-fi forum, and others, because I literally had no clue what I was doing. I had been using my MacBook Pro as my music source running iTunes, Audirvana, and JRiver, finally settling on the Roon OS as the one that suited me the best. So I bought a Roon Nucleus music server and ran an inexpensive 50ft BestBuy Ethernet cord from my Xfinity router directly into the Nucleus thinking that I was done.

Thankfully Mr. Rob Osborne of Network Acoustics, aka @teknorob23, came to my rescue and methodically educated me about the vagaries of internet music streaming. Slowly I began to understand that no matter how fancy and expensive your audio gear is, unless you address the issues of having clean power running through your system, and the elimination of as much RFI and EMI as possible, you won’t really be able to hear how good your system could be. I hope I have that right Rob?

Since I plugged in the eno between my router and my Roon Nucleus I haven’t thought about removing it. With the eno the music that I listen to sounds less digital and less harsh with a more smooth and analog presentation. Some folks spend $10K to $20K plus on “audiophile music streamer/servers” to get where they want to be. I don’t blame them because I wish that I could too. But there’s other ways to get to audio nirvana if you’re patient and willing to listen to folks who know more about it. Not me of course. Lol

 

[iFi audio]

unless you address the issues of having clean power running through your system, and the elimination of as much RFI and EMI as possible, you won’t really be able to hear how good your system could be.

Agreed and it's quite cool that even affordable setups benefit from limiting noise especially from power supplies.

 

[dougms3]

I'm not very familiar with this type of device. Perhaps someone could shed some light on this for me.

https://kamaudio.com/TeraDak-T-S211-media-converter

If I have verizon fios internet, would this media converter replace the existing device or work in tandem with it?

 

[chesebert]

I’ve had a Network Acoustics eno Streaming System in my listening chain for some time now, and I couldn’t be happier with what it does. https://www.networkacoustics.com/shop/eno-streaming-system/. A couple of forever years ago when the pandemic started, I knew that internet music streaming was how I wanted to setup my system. So I began reading and asking questions on this head-fi forum, and others, because I literally had no clue what I was doing. I had been using my MacBook Pro as my music source running iTunes, Audirvana, and JRiver, finally settling on the Roon OS as the one that suited me the best. So I bought a Roon Nucleus music server and ran an inexpensive 50ft BestBuy Ethernet cord from my Xfinity router directly into the Nucleus thinking that I was done.

Thankfully Mr. Rob Osborne of Network Acoustics, aka @teknorob23, came to my rescue and methodically educated me about the vagaries of internet music streaming. Slowly I began to understand that no matter how fancy and expensive your audio gear is, unless you address the issues of having clean power running through your system, and the elimination of as much RFI and EMI as possible, you won’t really be able to hear how good your system could be. I hope I have that right Rob?

Since I plugged in the eno between my router and my Roon Nucleus I haven’t thought about removing it. With the eno the music that I listen to sounds less digital and less harsh with a more smooth and analog presentation. Some folks spend $10K to $20K plus on “audiophile music streamer/servers” to get where they want to be. I don’t blame them because I wish that I could too. But there’s other ways to get to audio nirvana if you’re patient and willing to listen to folks who know more about it. Not me of course. Lol

What is that device? Is it just a transformer DC blocker?

 

[chesebert]

I'm not very familiar with this type of device. Perhaps someone could shed some light on this for me.

https://kamaudio.com/TeraDak-T-S211-media-converter

If I have verizon fios internet, would this media converter replace the existing device or work in tandem with it?

I could be wrong, but the device appears to convert fiber to ethernet. Don't know if it's worthwhile to use enterprise networking for home use unless you need to run your ethernet cable over a very long distance (like running from one floor to another). I think it would make more sense for streamer to adopt fiber input so that you just get a router that has fiber output and then just connect fiber directly into the streamer. I am only aware of 1 streamer on the market with that functionality; I hope more will follow.

 

[bpcans]

What is that device? Is it just a transformer DC blocker?

This article might help. https://www.hifipig.com/network-acoustics-eno-streaming-system/.

 

[dougms3]

I could be wrong, but the device appears to convert fiber to ethernet. Don't know if it's worthwhile to use enterprise networking for home use unless you need to run your ethernet cable over a very long distance (like running from one floor to another). I think it would make more sense for streamer to adopt fiber input so that you just get a router that has fiber output and then just connect fiber directly into the streamer. I am only aware of 1 streamer on the market with that functionality; I hope more will follow.

Its a digital media converter. If you have verizon fios or other fiber internet, you have something like this in your house already.

The fiber line is converted to ethernet so you can connect your router to it.

 

[kumar402]

Its a digital media converter. If you have verizon fios or other fiber internet, you have something like this in your house already.

The fiber line is converted to ethernet so you can connect your router to it.

Now to connect router to streamer you can again convert it back to optical to remove noise from router, EMI/RFI etc and use the above device just before the streamer to convert it back to ETHERNET.
Is it effective that I don't know.

 

[dougms3]

Now to connect router to streamer you can again convert it back to optical to remove noise from router, EMI/RFI etc and use the above device just before the streamer to convert it back to ETHERNET.
Is it effective that I don't know.

It should yield a significant improvement if it replaces the existing media converter which is probably worth $20.

Just to be clear, this device has fiber input and ethernet out to router. While fiber is not prone to outside interference like EMI, it still transfers noise and susceptible to jitter.

There is an upcoming release called the sw-10 which is an upgrade from this model.

https://www.beatechnik.com/lhy-audio-sw-8

Its supposed to have a master clock input. A switch would see a huge benefit from a nice oxco clock, especially for streaming.

 

[kumar402]

It should yield a significant improvement if it replaces the existing media converter which is probably worth $20.

Just to be clear, this device has fiber input and ethernet out to router. While fiber is not prone to outside interference like EMI, it still transfers noise and susceptible to jitter.

There is an upcoming release called the sw-10 which is an upgrade from this model.

https://www.beatechnik.com/lhy-audio-sw-8

Its supposed to have a master clock input. A switch would see a huge benefit from a nice oxco clock, especially for streaming.

the device in question
https://kamaudio.com/TeraDak-T-S211-media-converter
does have OCXO option to re-clock. I have it on order and will report back if I notice any improvement in my Metrum Ambre.

 

[chesebert]

This article might help. https://www.hifipig.com/network-acoustics-eno-streaming-system/.

That's a marketing piece. I got nothing out of that article. Seems like a device that was priced for audio-fools.

 

[iFi audio]

Now to connect router to streamer you can again convert it back to optical to remove noise from router, EMI/RFI etc and use the above device just before the streamer to convert it back to ETHERNET.
Is it effective that I don't know.

Just to chime in, our NEO Stream features an optical network input and that TeraDak converter (here used as anti-noise barrier indeed) can connect to it, while its RJ45 line connects to a regular router. Our OptiBox (a part of the NEO Stream package) does the same thing as TeraDak. Thanks!

 

[bpcans]

That's a marketing piece. I got nothing out of that article. Seems like a device that was priced for audio-fools.

Yeah, the eno probably wouldn’t work for you anyway. Which is okay. No worries.