[iFi audio]

Now listening with the original power suplys again to router and switch to be sure it was not placebo.

I agree, It's not

Going back to stuff that performs worse can be painful

 

[bluenight]

I havent figured out yet if cleaner power for router somehow can improve the sound with wifi. Maybe time will tell with more normal listening/viewing. I only use wifi for my oled tvs internal streaming apps though.

 

[iFi audio]

I havent figured out yet if cleaner power for router somehow can improve the sound with wifi. Maybe time will tell with more normal listening/viewing.

Do you stream music via wifi, or do you use it only to control your streamer device with files stored somewhere?

 

[bluenight]

Do you stream music via wifi, or do you use it only to control your streamer device with files stored somewhere?

I only use wifi for my oled tvs internal apps like netflix, youtube etc. Optical out to hugo 2. I control my streamer with smartphone that uses wifi of course. Tidal connect. But my music streamer and apple tv 4k is wired Ethernet.

 

[iFi audio]

I only use wifi for my oled tvs internal apps like netflix, youtube etc. Optical out to hugo 2. I control my streamer with smartphone that uses wifi of course. Tidal connect. But my music streamer and apple tv 4k is wired Ethernet.

Recently I got feedback from one our customer who uses a router to provide wireless control for his streamer with internal hard drive. In his case thus a router isn't even in his audio chain, and he still was able to notice a performance spike upon swapping its PSU. So there's something there.

 

[bluenight]

Recently I got feedback from one our customer who uses a router to provide wireless control for his streamer with internal hard drive. In his case thus a router isn't even in his audio chain, and he still was able to notice a performance spike upon swapping its PSU. So there's something there.

So his streamer uses wifi and not wired connection?

And when is ifi going to make bang for the buck Ethernet audio products like maybe filters or switch with your noice cancelation technique?

 

[iFi audio]

So his streamer uses wifi and not wired connection?

His router goes wired to his streamer, but serves 'only' the purpose of control over it via wifi (a dedicated app on his smarthpone). Many people would argue that in this scenario a router only to control that streamer is way aside the audio chain, so as such it shouldn't affect audio quality in any way possible, but it does. A PSU swap for that router improved sound.

 

[bluenight]

His router goes wired to his streamer, but serves 'only' the purpose of control over it via wifi (a dedicated app on his smarthpone). Many people would argue that in this scenario a router only to control that streamer is way aside the audio chain, so as such it shouldn't affect audio quality in any way possible, but it does. A PSU swap for that router improved sound.

I would consider that wired connection though. But he dont seem to stream music over internet you said he listens from hard drive?

After my experience with better psu=better sound for my router and switch with wired connection i would consider them in the chain. The noiser power\frequencies travels through the wired connection to streamer.

 

[iFi audio]

I would consider that wired connection though. But he dont seem to stream music over internet you said he listens from hard drive?

That's correct. His streamer has in-built SSD for that.

After my experience with better psu=better sound for my router and switch with wired connection i would consider them in the chain. The noiser power\frequencies travels through the wired connection to streamer.

Routers seem to be the noisiest, so having a switch should net some audible benefits.

 

[Serpie]

I bought a audioquest cinnamon ethernet cable earlier this year on sale for about 50 euros. I listened carefully before switching to the cinnamon ethernet cable. After switching to the cinnamon cable i heard a bit bitter separation, more air, and maybe a lower noisefloor. I have also tried a Transparent ethernet cable (about 350 euros) afterwards and it also gave an improvement to my stereo. It gave a better sense of space in live recordings. So yes up to a point i think its worth but it all depends on your current rig.

 

[iFi audio]

I bought a audioquest cinnamon ethernet cable earlier this year on sale for about 50 euros. I listened carefully before switching to the cinnamon ethernet cable. After switching to the cinnamon cable i heard a bit bitter separation, more air, and maybe a lower noisefloor. I have also tried a Transparent ethernet cable (about 350 euros) afterwards and it also gave an improvement to my stereo. It gave a better sense of space in live recordings. So yes up to a point i think its worth but it all depends on your current rig.

Your observations are pretty much in line with observations of many other forum users who had some experiments with Ethernet cables.

 

[atya35mm]

Hi all, just wanting to check is shorter better for ethernet cable? I think I should be able to make 0.75m work, but I read somewhere minimum of 1 meter for ethernet cable is ideal? Anyone here has experience to back this up? Thanks.

 

[teknorob23]

Hi all, just wanting to check is shorter better for ethernet cable? I think I should be able to make 0.75m work, but I read somewhere minimum of 1 meter for ethernet cable is ideal? Anyone here has experience to back this up? Thanks.

Length doesn’t really effect audio performance in Ethernet cables, or at least it’s marginal especially if you’re looking anything 10m or less. After that, in hyper resolving systems you may here a very slight degradation over longer lengths

 

[bfreedma]

Length doesn’t really effect audio performance in Ethernet cables, or at least it’s marginal especially if you’re looking anything 10m or less. After that, in hyper resolving systems you may here a very slight degradation over longer lengths

This is not accurate. Packetized data either arrives and passes error check or it doesn’t. It’s literally impossible for there to be “slight degradation”, no matter how resolving a system is. If data isn‘t arriving properly, there would be dropouts, not some EQ like alteration of the audio during playback.

If that wasn’t the case, digital communication via Ethernet simply wouldn’t work. Ethernet doesn’t “know” what’s in a packet, so audio is no different than any other packetized data.

 

[iFi audio]

Oops double!