The "dirty little secrets about your work" thread
Jun 28, 2007 at 5:54 AM Post #106 of 137
Well this thread is great!

Here are some information i can pass on,

Current Job -Bouncer at club in GR

Don't ever give bouncers a hard time or give the brief threat look to us because ive seen tones of people get the **** kicked out of them for that. And everytime they call the cops on us the cops always side with bouncers

Don't think we always call the cops when you do something illegal. Most of everything even serious stuff gets handeld in house no cameras kind of deal.

Tip really well and we will let you do about anything you want.

Old Job- UPS Unloader

Just always put insurance on packages, we don't smash as much as things just fall from the top of the trailer when they are packed bad. Also we are taught to "slide" them through the air which is basically trying to get some distance on throwing your package.

Other then that they rush you so bad you can't just handle them with care.
 
Jun 28, 2007 at 7:09 AM Post #107 of 137
I served in the Israeli Air-force for 3 years as an electrical technician.. on.. some cool stuff. Anyway, the place is top notch
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you need to sign for everything, even a screwdriver head. the tool rooms are checked regularly, if anything is going up the worksheets are thoroughly reviewed.. if something is 'lost', a whole base could be grounded!(literally) (which means nobody goes home too, so, it doesnt happen much, and it usually solves itself quickly - read: ever seen loads of people emptying trash cans looking for a bolt?). work is only done by people after they know what they're doing, while being watched by people who really know what they're doing. mistakes aren't taken lightly. I'm proud to have served there. I really learned a lot of work discipline.
 
Jun 28, 2007 at 7:33 AM Post #108 of 137
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Originally Posted by darkangel9685 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
thiefs. Yes they exist, but it is HIGHLY discouraged and frowned upon, and can and will result in disiplinary action.


stealing is discouraged? and you might get disciplined? that sounds pretty weak to me
 
Jun 28, 2007 at 7:39 AM Post #109 of 137
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Originally Posted by taylor /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I work at a major electronics retailer, in the warehouse.

Our warehouse department, for the most part, is very good. We always move TVs and stuff carefully and properly. We load into customer's cars a lot and any one of us will spend an extra 5 minutes to make sure the TV is secured properly. Laying down flat screen TVs is bad news. It would be so easy to just throw them laying down in the trunk, but every one of us will spend 5 minutes forcing it into the back seat standing up, even though we don't have to. Products in the warehouse are always treated well. Not babied, but never abused.

Our corporate office did a kinda dirty thing once, which lasted for a week before it was rescinded. Because people will buy a perfectly fine TV, then take it home and break it, and return it claiming they broke it (for physical screen damage, we have to write it off, which is a ton of money lost), for a little, we were required to open up every TV, check off that it wasn't cracked, and make the customer sign it. They got pissed off because they didn't want to be given opened merchandise, so we stopped.

There are a lot of things that would be annoying towards customers, and which slow down things, but we have to do certain things because of dishonest customers. If you return a TV, you can expect that the serial numbers will be checked very carefully with the ones recorded when you purchased it. Most returns are carefully checked to make sure it's the right product.

We have 15% restocking fees on some stuff. It's there for two reasons - if we take it open, we sell it at around 15% off . Also, it is there to discourage swapping out the item. We had people who would buy something, then after 6 months it would break, so then they would buy the same model, switch the units, and return it. It is designed for the least amount of problems as possible (no fee if exchanged for an identical unit or one of higher value, but often the manager will exchange it for store credit or a completely different product, just as long as it's not a cash refund). I think it makes perfect sense. I know that if I bought something I wasn't sure about, and knew there was a restocking fee (we got smart about a year ago and put big stickers on the stuff, so that you cant open it without tearing the sticker), I would think about it before using it. If I bought a GPS, and it broke, I'd get another one. Too many people try to rip us as a company off.

We have some policies that can be bad for an innocent customer, but they're in place because of people trying to rip us off. We as employees need to be paid, so we're immediately against doing things that will cost the store money.

Oh, and, often people will bend over backwards to help people who are being really nice. If someone comes in and is a jerk to me, I treat them as such. I'm warehouse, and I refuse to load stuff for people who are ******** to me. One time this guy came in for these chairs, and made this whole big fuss about it, called me an ******* to my face, and accused me of lying to him when I told him we didn't have something (we had two display models and one sealed box of this chair, and he wanted two. the policy is to give him the one we have and special order the other). So he finally gets one after dealing with the manager. At this point we already had closed and there were like 5 people around, and he points to me and says "I have a bad back. Put this in my car." so I said to my manager "Ben, I'm clocking out and going home now, see you later." and walked out. The ****monger got even more pissed off at me, but Ben knew that he was being a tool and earlier said "yea this guy is a real piece of work, let me deal with him"
I haven't had any other times when I refused to load something, but if people give me **** like that again, I'm going to. Just gonna put their bigass plasma on the sidewalk and be like "have a nice day" and walk away, and if they bitch, be like "ill load it when i get the chance" and then make them wait at least 15 minutes.

That's another thing we do condone in the warehouse. We do our best to get things as quickly as possible. We have a lot of responsibilities. The pickup counter is not supposed to be staffed all the time. When a customer comes up, they page us, then we get up there ASAP, which could be a minute or two depending on where we are. Then we load their **** ASAP, but that could take a few minutes if we have to search for it and use the stockpicker. Most people are fine with it, but if someone gets really bitchy, we've all been known to stand there just out of sight of the window holding a product for a few minutes. The way I see it, all I'm asking for is to be treated like a human. If that's too much for someone to do for me, then I don't see why they need their products all that quickly.

Oh, and if someone is really bitchy, we talk **** on them. We'll all stand in a group behind the counter when it's not busy and make fun of the most ******* customers we've had that day. Back before they replaced our managers with useless ********, they would take part in it as well. Small victories like that are all that keep us from quitting. There's a reason why in a store of 75 people, maybe 25 have been there longer than I have, which is less than 2 years.

The thing with product, though, is that our distribution center blows. I unloaded a truck 5 AM yesterday morning with air conditioners. They weren't even nicely stacked or anything. Just kind of thrown together.

It's a bad situation, because product comes off of the truck damaged, and there's nothing to do except sell it or write it off. We def out the stuff that's actually damaged, but boxes that look beat up or ripped, we still sell.



where's my "snoring" smilie? .........snorreeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Jun 28, 2007 at 8:06 AM Post #110 of 137
working in clubs since i was 15-16 and now i own and run a lounge..

First and foremost if your ever in a well to do lounge/club/bar always look for the floor manager. this person is like the general manager of a Casino on shift, he or she has the rule to give the house away or make sure you don't step foot in location ever again. Easy to spot them cause they are dressed better then anyone else in the building, they pace the building constantly yet really don't appear to be doing anything much, they talk to the employees here and there but don't make conversation with them for long, they look at everything and everyone in the building and when they are not on the floor watching they are behind the cameras watching, they know everything about anyone and if they don't either they don't they will soon! out of all my years working in this business this is the person you want to love you but at the same time you should fear them. I have seen and known of people getting entire visits free! not even the shadiest bar tender can do that. the bouncer at the door might let you in without ID but the floor manager can let your entire grade school in on their call alone. they truly are the seed and bread of the building, seriously watch out for a floor manager and think of a real way of making friends with them..the rewards are F$$$ing priceless!!
I was good friends with the Floor manager at Crobar when I was 18-20 and I not only sat VIP every time but drank on house most of the time (i left huge tips though..like $100 size)

another person less important but still can do good for you and your friends is the bar tenders, if there is more then one watch who takes and gives orders then go to the boss. One important rule with bartenders is don't ever go to the ladies! they are there to work the men for more and more, so if your a guy go to the guys and Tip nicely..the guys will respect you more and give better benefits then any lady will do for us guys (and if your a female then go to the ladies..). women bar tenders are a special breed cause they are the best drink hustler in the bar (person that can work someone for a free drink) only they work and serve the drinks. when i would look for female bartenders first thing i look for is a lady that works her stuff for drinks..its a given. tip nicely to the bar tenders and i mean nicely especially the first round, if you order $20 worth of drink leave at least $20 for the tip on the first shot then on the second leave $10 or $5..then enjoy the free drink and the more free drinks after that also enjoy the first come first you service you will get.
but again guys stay away from the lady bartenders..well if there is a guy bar-tending.

Bouncers are the lowest on the chain, they think they are something and some act like it but in a big club or classy lounge they can be replaced faster then someone working at the fast food joint down the block. smile and be nice but other then that leave them alone. everybody tells the bouncers what to do, hell i seen Bar backs tell the bouncers what to do in a club once..I laughed my ass off..if its a local or smaller bar then the bouncer should be someone more laid back and cool so invest sometime after your in to buy them a drink..it may help out later..may

the dj is the person who always has the drugs or knows where to get some..really..no like really.. enough said about dj's

funny cause as i type this i am sitting in the basement of my bar, time to go up and take a look who's here and who should not be (joking). all i know is who ever keeps stomping their feet rite over my head i am going to kill!
only 55 more mins and they are gone..

(Billy runs upstairs to see what ladies he can work for drinks only to spit them out in a chaser..)
 
Jun 28, 2007 at 2:33 PM Post #112 of 137
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Originally Posted by EyeAmEye /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Would you consider it a dirty little secret if I told you I work at a college where nobody knows what they are doing? (Don't ask, I won't tell you which one)
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Seriously, if anyone knew how incompetent the administration and faculty are here, I don't think anyone would enroll. I certainly wouldn't.



I have worked in higher education (as a faculty member or graduate teaching assistant/associate) at several insitutions and can both confirm & deny your claims. I taught at a very small liberal arts private college (with no particular reputation) for 6 years & can say that feces-throwing monkeys on crack could have operated that institution better (from both an administration & faculty perspective), with notable individual exceptions. I am dumfounded that place hasn't gone under yet.

I left that institution as soon as I could (good academic positions are rare) & am now at a university that is actually VERY well run (overall) from both an administrative & faculty perspective. The staff are OK too. Of course not all students here agree with my assessment, but if they knew what I knew they would be much more appreciative of their situation.

Now my special contribution to this thread is this...

From what I have seen in the higher ed biz, ratemyprofessors.com is a surprisingly accurate source of information regarding the quality of university professors. I say this with the following caveats:

(1) Consider the sample size. A professor with only 1 or 2 ratings & a poor ranking may be suffering from the wrath of a single disgruntled student.

(2) Pay particular attention to consistency in the written comments section. Sometimes individual students have an axe to grind, but if 10 students say similar things, that is meaningful.

(3) Beware of highly rated professors who are ranked as being very easy...particularly with professors within your specific major. Although you may get an easy A, you may not likely learn anything. This is particularly a problem in upper-division courses where you should be attempting to master your chosen field.

(4) All faculty wish they had more chili pepper ('hot') ratings, even if they act like it is beneath them.
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EDIT: By the way, my university IS NOT located in my town of residence (although one is located there). I'd argue that particular university is one of the badly run ones (my wife goes there currently for convenience), although most students either don't know or think that all institutions operate that way. Remember about what they say about never watching a sausage being made!
 
Jun 28, 2007 at 2:49 PM Post #113 of 137
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Originally Posted by EyeAmEye /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Would you consider it a dirty little secret if I told you I work at a college where nobody knows what they are doing? (Don't ask, I won't tell you which one)
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Seriously, if anyone knew how incompetent the administration and faculty are here, I don't think anyone would enroll. I certainly wouldn't.



oooh... please do tell! you can PM me of which college it is.

BigAmish and EyeAmEye, i'm enrolled in NYU this coming semester for the Master's in Higher Education Administration with an internship/focus on Residence Life, any pointers i should know?

i worked in many Higher-Ed Admin offices (Student Life, Pres' Office, Student Activities, Res Life, etc.) when i was an Undergrad student, and i'm happy to say that particular school ran fairly well. Academic offices on the other hand... they weren't so organized.
 
Jun 28, 2007 at 3:03 PM Post #114 of 137
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Originally Posted by bong /img/forum/go_quote.gif
BigAmish and EyeAmEye, i'm enrolled in NYU this coming semester for the Master's in Higher Education Administration with an internship/focus on Residence Life, any pointers i should know?


Tough to say as your degree focus is very different from my area of expertise. However, it is my opinion that internships are often the defining experience of any students academic career. Work hard to get the most out of it. Good luck with your studies!
 
Jun 28, 2007 at 4:06 PM Post #115 of 137
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Originally Posted by bong /img/forum/go_quote.gif
NYU



BINGO!!!



Nah, just kidding
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BigAmish,
I have no doubt some schools are run well, I only speak from my own experience at this particular school. Believe me when I say that everything, and I do mean everything, is run as poorly as possible while still keeping the college running. The administrative is so convoluted, there are a myriad of hands in every decision, all looking out purely for themselves, and nothing gets done.

I deal directly with both students and faculty, and as lost as some students are (and they really, really are), the faculty is just a hair behind.
 
Jun 28, 2007 at 5:27 PM Post #116 of 137
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Originally Posted by inthused /img/forum/go_quote.gif
You and the taxpayers deserve better.


Reference to post #47 and #50.

First of all, my posts on this topic is not meant to be political. It just so happen that I work at a government agency and politics inevitably gets into every decision that needs to be made.

When I first started as an analyst, I was told by my supervisor to "assist" in the development of a budget resolution on the subsidy program for those with low income. For this particular budget, millions of dollars were to be "transferred over" from this subsidy program to the State legisture's general budget. I've never worked for a government agency before and I was kinda lost on what he was talking about. My supervisor told me to put my name on this particular resolution and had the "liaison" of this subsidy program help me with the process. Basically, I ended up being the typist for this document with my name attached to it. Later on, after the resolution was passed, I learned I was "working out of class" and not supposed to "write a resolution". To this date, it's the only piece of government document "authored" by me and that can be confirmed by searching on the appropriate government website. So, you may ask, why did my supervisor and the "liaison" wanted me to put my name on that resolution? The reason was that California was in serious fiscal deficit back then and our subsidy program had a lot of money in its account (we're talking about tens of millions of dollars). The State legislature wanted the money, but the money was collected on every Californian's phone bills (see those obscure fees at the bottom of phone bill) for a specific reason -- to assist those with a low income. My supervisor and the "liaison" didn't want to take responsibility for what was going to happen (changing the usage purpose of the subsidy collected), so they had the "newbie" (me) be the "fall guy". This also happened to another coworker of mine who worked on another low-income subsidy program.

This coworker of mine also had an interesting situation. She received enough promotions that she's now able to legitimately write resolutions. However, this one time, she was given a "finding" (as in a result) and was told by her supervisor to come up with "the analysis" to support the "finding". She refused and she's now "blackballed" by management and will never be promoted.
 
Jun 28, 2007 at 6:02 PM Post #117 of 137
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Originally Posted by mtkversion /img/forum/go_quote.gif
watch the movie 'Waiting' if you frequently eat out ... it has some pretty helpful tips.
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hahaha, sooooo true. i worked in a kitchen last summer and it was identical to the going-ons of our kitchen. AND it was an open kitchen!
 
Jun 28, 2007 at 6:05 PM Post #118 of 137
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Originally Posted by kool bubba ice /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I always tip well & am very nice to my waiter/waitress
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Not only is it the right thing to do, it's the smart thing to do. It's amazing how many people never figure that out.
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Jun 28, 2007 at 6:22 PM Post #119 of 137
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Not only is it the right thing to do, it's the smart thing to do. It's amazing how many people never figure that out.
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Especially if you visit that restaurant a LOT!
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Jun 28, 2007 at 6:39 PM Post #120 of 137
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These are not really "dirty secrets" but advice and suggestions that I can offer should you ever find yourself in these situations. Most of this learned from seeing some really, really terrible things happen to people.

If you ever find yourself in an ambulance:

Don't ever, ever allow an Paramedic or EMT(especially an emt) to start an I-V on you if you don't absolutely need it. Wait until you get to the Hospital. The reasons why would scare you to death. Besides, it will save you hundreds of dollars.

If you can walk to an ambulance instead of being carried, do so. It will save you money and typically gets you best treatment. Medics hate to carry people who can walk.

If you want to go to a certain hospital (not the closest) clearly state that you are of sound mind, understand the risks and/or you wish to go to hospital of your same religion. Unless you are suffering from serious trauma, they'll take you. You can also state that your insurance might not cover an out-of-network hospital.

Ask if you need Oxygen, monitoring or telepathy before the Medic gives it to you. None of this stuff is typically covered by insurance and it all costs extra, sometimes thousands extra and most patients don't require it.

If you are in large cities like Chicago and NYC where they have Advanced Life Support and Basic Life Support ambulances, you should ALWAYS request an ALS ambulance. Basic ambulances are staffed with EMTs and in Chicago and NYC, EMTs are Firefighters who hate being on ambulances and are trained 100% on-the-job. EMT training last only three weeks, they can't give you any drugs and they aren't trained to recognize most dangerous symptoms. Basic ambulances don't have Defribs, EKGs or Telapathy devices.

If you need an ambulance and the cops show up first, never allow them to make the call for you. This creates two layers of reports and it also makes your entire incident public record ( I mean everything). If you don't need the police, clearly state that. It also allows people to hear all your info over police radio frequencies. The reason reporters beat the ambulances to the hospital in the Chris Farley fatality is because the cops were involved first. DO NOT allow this to happen to you.

If you ever have a fire at your dwelling or place of business: (after you get yourself and loved ones out)

Right after you call the fire department, Call your insurance company. They will almost always send out an emergency adjuster/claims expert. This is not to expediate your claim, it's to strongly discourage firefighters from destroying your property by needlessly dumping thousands of gallons of water on a fire or breaking out all your windows and doors. When Firefighters look around and see that the insurance company is on-site, they are far, far more careful about how they extinguish fires. Otherwise, your home might be used to train some rookie whom might just want to see your furniture float. That's not a joke and I hate to admit it.

Insist that the location and cause of your fire not be printed in the media. I have a looooong list of horror stories about this kinda thing. Also insist that your name not be printed if possible. If you have a claims expert on-site, he will advise you of this.

Speaking of the claims expert and insurance companies, do not discuss with him/them the cause of your fire, even if you know how it started. Let the fire investigator determine that and allow him to discuss it with the insurance company.

DO NOT EVER ask a firefighter to save or retrieve anything for you from a burning buidling. That does nothing but insure that this item will be destroyed. Firefighters hate it when people ask them to save anything other than a person or pet.

Don't ever tell anyone about valuables in your home. Especially not the firefighters. There is a long standing joke that the reason Firefighter bunker coats have deep pockets is so they can steal your crap. I hate to admit that one too but it happens, often.

Most firefighters are honest and hardworking but there are a large number of them who got on the job by nepotism and rigged exams. Most of these guys feel like the public owes them something and hate dealing with people. The guys you see on TV reviving pets in front of the cameras are typically the worst of the bunch. While they're busy doing that stuff, the real fighters are busy extinguishing the fire.

Firefighters truly, deeply hate it when Cops "save" people from burning buildings and get called "heroes". I've witnessed police officers do this just as firefighters are pulling up to a burning building. They typically do it because they know they'll get on TV and get a Meritous(sp?) Citation. That just makes me sick and if a Firefighter or medic attempted to detain or arrest someone ( they are sworn) cops get all riled up about it.



If you have a fire at your house, then you expect the fire department to come and save your ass, perhaps let them do what is neccessary to save lives/extinguish the fire. Sure stealing is bad, but if they have to break windows or douse the house in water to get the fire out, let them do it, dont whine about it.

That or they could just let the house burn down.

Oh and if u are in an ambulence ,stop tryimng to save money.. just die..
 

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