THE COMPOSER OPEN BACK FLAGSHIP by AUSTRIAN AUDIO

[Nomax]

@b000merang

I mean wrinkle-free on the outside and on the surface and without a seam on the contact surface
(You are welcome to turn around and show us the wrinkles here)

NOMAX

PS.But I can also show you mine inside when I am back from lunch

 

[TRHH]

Can other owners of the suede pads please show photos to see if this fold is common, or has my pad actually failed quality control in terms of being wrinkle-free?
Please provide feedback so I can possibly file a complaint about the pads in time.

Here you go:

 

[shabta]

Here you go:

How do you like them?

 

[TRHH]

How do you like them?

More comfortable on the skin than the standard pads. Unfortunately, they are very susceptible to dust.

But it's a shame that these pads isn't part of the standard equipment and that you as a customer has to pay additional 299 EURO to get some comfortable pads.

With the standard pads I have been using EQ settings but these settings can not be used with suede pads.

Without EQ (the new suede pads) there are some problems with piano (jazz recordings). I don't have this with my Noire X (no EQ)

 

[b000merang]

Here you go:

Ok that’s really good looking. Very symmetrical and smooth coverage. My second one is also better.
Regarding comfort, I can only agree that they are significantly more pleasant than the original pads. The skin feels very pleasant, but they are also susceptible to the smallest skin particles.
So always wash your hair and face and gently moisturize your skin.

@Nomax :
Ok. That makes sense. Thanks for your feedback.
I remember some explanation regarding wave reflections inside the pressure chamber to the ear. And thought for that reason it has to be absolutely wrinkle-free.
But maybe I mixed something up.

 

[Nomax]

More comfortable on the skin than the standard pads. Unfortunately, they are very susceptible to dust.

But it's a shame that these pads isn't part of the standard equipment and that you as a customer has to pay additional 299 EURO to get some comfortable pads.

With the standard pads I have been using EQ settings but these settings can not be used with suede pads.

Without EQ (the new suede pads) there are some problems with piano (jazz recordings). I don't have this with my Noire X (no EQ)

It would also have been possible to include the Suede Pads as well as spacers....but then not for 2.500 Euros but for the price of the Empyrean 2.990 Euros
(So i think its better that everyone can decide how much he wants to pay for his individual Composer)
That's why i have the Fuzzleroller from tesa

NOMAX

PS.

@b000merang
I could show you here Ear Cushions from others with real folds/winkles where there are really wave reflections
(And don't forget....apply the aftershave after shaving)
Unfortunately I'm not at home yet.... because of the pictures of what mine look like inside
And always remember... an ear cushion is always exposed to certain circumstances and is not designed for a few years of daily use
You have to see it like the tires on a car....they also show signs of wear and tear
(I've also replaced my Utopia pads twice now, so what?I am annoyed about it....no because that's the part of my hobby that I can afford)

 

[jamesjames]

More comfortable on the skin than the standard pads. Unfortunately, they are very susceptible to dust.

But it's a shame that these pads isn't part of the standard equipment and that you as a customer has to pay additional 299 EURO to get some comfortable pads.

With the standard pads I have been using EQ settings but these settings can not be used with suede pads.

Without EQ (the new suede pads) there are some problems with piano (jazz recordings). I don't have this with my Noire X (no EQ)

Do you mind describing the issue with piano that you hear with the suede pads?

 

[baalmeph]

Received my suede pads this week. Soundwise I can join other comments before: More depth in soundstage and a slight modified tonality.
BUT:
With all this talk about price and quality, I wanted to ask you something, since Nomax has repeatedly emphasized how difficult it is to get the cover over the foam without wrinkles. So, do you think this is "wrinkle-free"?



Can other owners of the suede pads please show photos to see if this fold is common, or has my pad actually failed quality control in terms of being wrinkle-free?
Please provide feedback so I can possibly file a complaint about the pads in time.

I would be more concerned about the spikes and their surrounding dampening. It seems badly aligned. That might cause a not working sealing between Composer and Pads, which should influence the sound significantly.
For me no doubt to return this!

 

[xxx1313]

I would be more concerned about the spikes and their surrounding dampening. It seems badly aligned. That might cause a not working sealing between Composer and Pads, which should influence the sound significantly.
For me no doubt to return this!

What's wrong in your opinion? These spikes are there to align the earpads perfectly on the headphones and the material surrounding the spikes is a soft foam ring which ensures the seal. There is no difference here to the original leatherette pads and the seal is fine imo.

Cheers
Bernie

 

[b000merang]

I would be more concerned about the spikes and their surrounding dampening. It seems badly aligned. That might cause a not working sealing between Composer and Pads, which should influence the sound significantly.
For me no doubt to return this!

There is no problem with the seal around the two little pins because, as the holes on the opposite side of the earpiece are slightly larger. It's also very easy to fix by pressing on them with a small sleeve like from a ballpoint pen. So after Nomax feedback for me everything is fine with these new suede pads

 

[shabta]

There is no problem with the seal around the two little pins because, as the holes on the opposite side of the earpiece are slightly larger. It's also very easy to fix by pressing on them with a small sleeve like from a ballpoint pen. So after Nomax feedback for me everything is fine with these new suede pads

It coul;d be that I don't understand exactly what you mean but.. Based on the picture you posted of the pads and the fact that you have to exert some sort of pressure for the pad to snap into place, I think you have a faulty pad. It shouldn't have a fold inside and I can take my pads off and then place them back on without pressing, using a pen or any other added pressure.... The fold inside will defintely affect the sound.

 

[Nomax]

There is no problem with the seal around the two little pins because, as the holes on the opposite side of the earpiece are slightly larger. It's also very easy to fix by pressing on them with a small sleeve like from a ballpoint pen. So after Nomax feedback for me everything is fine with these new suede pads

No worries
When i press against the cushion...the wrinkles get even bigger at mine....oh that's a big problem....ohh that's faulty design
I have to write to AA and exchange it very quickly quickly....otherwise the world will end for me
That's all I have to say about the Punch and Judy show that some people try to portray.....mostly always from those who think everything is too expensive
(Please sell your Composer...do yourself a favor....and buy a different model)

NOMAX

PS.it is logical...even my smoothly shaken cushion in the bed wrinkles when I put my head on it and exert pressure on it

 

[shabta]

No worries
When i press against the cushion...the wrinkles get even bigger at mine....oh that's a big problem....ohh that's faulty design
I have to write to AA and exchange it very quickly quickly....otherwise the world will end for me
That's all I have to say about the Punch and Judy show that some people try to portray.....mostly always from those who think everything is too expensive
(Please sell your Composer...do yourself a favor....and buy a different model)

NOMAX

PS.it is logical...even my smoothly shaken cushion in the bed wrinkles when I put my head on it and exert pressure on it

Your arguing with your own imagination.

He showed a photo of an inner wrinkle without any pressure.

What is it about members of the friends of AA club that they can't engage in discussions where different people have differing opinions without becoming mean and distorting what others are saying?

 

[Nomax]

Your arguing with your own imagination.

He showed a photo of an inner wrinkle without any pressure.

What is it about members of the friends of AA club that they can't engage in discussions where different people have differing opinions without becoming mean and distorting what others are saying?

And I answered him that the winkle get even bigger when he puts it on and puts pressure on the ear pads.....which is completely normal
Also that he doesn't have to worry about it, created by the crumple zone, which is needed for an ear cushion....and now very importantly
this doesn't affect the sound......has its reasons for choosing this material on the inside

NOMAX

PS.They do that too...., but unlike them, I also write what I think about it
(And I laugh at many of the things)
By the way, I just checked my ear pads.... I also have a wrinkle....., but that's not why I'm shi..ing in my pants

 

[stersa]

Just Arrived for a Spanish HOT SUMMER... Closing the AA set..



Best regards

Sisco