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If you don't understand/agree with what I'm saying it's fine, but your argument is my car has character/soul because I like it, my car has character/soul because I said so, my car has character/soul because I slapped on some mods onto a piece of JUNK, yes I said it JUNK.
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Say whatever you want. At least my engine doesn't destroy itself.
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| The svx is pretty cool/quirky but with horrible performance |
Huh? It's not a stoplight racer, but it's performance is better than any of the non turbo japanese sportscars from the same era. It will out accelerate a non turbo 300zx, 3000gt, supra, etc. In terms of it's performance today, it runs a 15.5 @85mph, which is pretty decent. I don't know where you get off calling that 'horrible' performance. In fact, the precious BMW E30 M3 runs about 0-60 6.9-71sec, and does the 1/4 mile 15.1-15.4sec. So.... I guess the E30 M3 has "horrible" performance too?
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| and stop saying the prelude is the greatest thing since sliced bread, I've driven the 3rd and 4th gen preludes they handle well in a fwd econocar sort of way but the keywords there are "for the money." |
Uh, no, I won't stop saying it, because it is amazing REGARDLESS of money. Again, back in 1989, it out-slalomed everything. EVERYTHING AVAILABLE. The best from italy, germany, america, it didn't matter. The 3rd gen prelude crushed all comers in the slalom and handling department, with skinny 14" tires. With proper wheels and tires, some ugpraded sways and bushings, the car is an absolute monster. You really do not know what the hell you are talking about.
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| You talking about the double wishbone suspension on honda is like me talking about double wishbone on my dishwasher, what's the point? |
The point is most cars don't have front and rear double wishbone suspension systems. They are superior to most suspension designs, the only downsides being cost and unsprung weight.
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| I live in California and I'm tired of honda people in beatup civic hatches/accords thinking they have an enzo beater and you drive like schumacher. I bet I sometimes get associated with you guys just by owning a japanese sports compact, makes me sick. |
I'm sorry you live near obnoxious people. I don't have spoilers, fartcans, blue headlights, or anything ricey and obnoxious on any of my cars.
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| Oh yeah, It's hard for me to explain what soul is but it's like the car is crafted to be special vs an appliance that takes you from point a to point b or just fulfilling some numbers benchmarks. |
My prelude feels special. The handling is razor sharp, the engine sounds like a sportbike, and the adjustable bolsters keep me firmly planted while I defy the laws of physics. So does my SVX. Subaru lost over $3000 on each one they made, they sold them at a loss. The styling is quasi-exotic, the interior is full of alcantara just now being used in ferraris and bentleys, and it turns heads wherever I drive it. So, according to what you just said, they both have soul.
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| Edit forgot about the E30 comment: The E30 m3 has passion/soul because of the way it drives, it's about feeling direct/connected with the car. The E92 M3 is much much heavier(and faster) and the steering/transmission don't have the same feel that older bmws do so it destroys all the old m3 engineering benchmarks but it's not the same. It is not just because the new one gets more powerful which is expected. Bmws are about being lightweight and feel well originally. |
I feel directly connected when I drive my prelude. It's combination of lightweight, firm springs, amazing suspension design, rev-happy 2 liter, and small size make it extremely fun to drive. I feel very connected to the road, and to the car. My SVX, not so much.
My entire point was that everything you just said can be applied to ANY car. Your argument that BMW's have more 'soul' is a complete and total joke.
