sberamji
Head-Fier
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I have owned all the "DIY" efforts at one time or another (I had three Betas at once). The Arete is better....you pay for better! Don't complain if the hobby is proving expensive...find a cheaper pastime. Not every head-fier is poor. We are all between either public transportation or driving a Ferrari. Claiming that either Todd Green or Pete Millett is "milking" the headfi public? You clearly have no concept of bringing a quality product to fruition. The steps of design and implementation toward an end product. "DIY" if you can do better... If you could? Then you would then have to listen to someone like yourself complaining!
Pre-Amps (of which headphone amps are kin) are MUCH harder to configure from the noise (and the residual aspects) than two channel speaker amps. Maybe if you don't understand the mechanics (and intricacies) of circuit design...study it and develop an actual appreciation. Then you could offer something constructive in a conversation of cost vs. performance ratios.....
Well no. 1 I have nothing against TTVJ or anyone making the amps. No. 2 noone is asking any manufacturer to sell at cost - the DIY example was used just to show what can be achieved at different price points since we know how the CK2III, M3, PPA and B22 perform at their respective pricepoints. I understand that a manufacturer has to earn a profit and he also has to deal with the costs of servicing a customer etc etc. This was a general statement that manufacturers are milking the headfi community by marking up their product way way above cost and I never said that Todd and Pete are - I wonder why you are taking it to personaly - either you work for them or are so lonely that your only true company and love is the beloved Apex Peak/ Volcano and Arete. Yes, there is a development cost which is known as a fixed cost (if u dont understand what that means go back to school kid or read on...) and for every amp you sell you put the profit towards the fixed cost till you nulify it. After that whatever you earn is yours. If you spent $2000 designing the amp and you are earning $500 for every amp one sells, you recover the fixed cost by selling 4 amps. After that whatever you sell is yours. Infact if a manufacturer is selling multiple products then he doesnt really have to incur that much of an additional fixed cost to service his clients as he uses the same website and system that is already implemented. Hope thats constructive enough...
Yes, I am aware that preamps are lot harder to design because you are working with a very weak signal and hence you can easily affect the signal which is true. However please understand that they (when I say they I mean almost all manufacturers) are not reinventing the wheel. The amp above is a standard design with some tweaks in it (looks like a 3 channel descrete design with active ground though I could be wrong - similar to the Concerto, M3 and B22 3 channel). It didnt reinvent the wheel amd hence should not cost a ton of research costs.
Regarding me being able to afford the hobby and the other comments - thats a personal question so maybe I should answer it personally too - to answer it I actually like people like you who buy their toys brand new, use it for a while and then sell it off on headfi at a loss. We as docs also call it OCD (specially when someone owns an iem with 2-3 pairs of custom cables). What happens is that one ends up spending time analysing music more often than truly enjoying what the disc has to offer. Its more of an obsession rather than a hobby. Just my 2 cents...actually I should apologize...our economy needs customers like you...helps keep the GDP rolling...when are you going to sell the Arete just like the customised DNA? Grow up kid...I think you may have enough equipment out there to actually buy a used Ferrari...