Tekton Design Speakers
Dec 13, 2017 at 9:12 PM Post #61 of 144

Benny-x

1000+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 6, 2010
Posts
1,272
Likes
316
Location
Canada/China
Read mine. The "ways" has nothing to do with the number of types of drivers, it has to do with the wiring of the crossover(s). You can wire 1 type of driver an infinite number of ways to achieve whatever goal you/the design is shooting for.

Here, it is true. The Tekton DI and Ulfbhert lines wire a collection of tweeters to function as a mid "driver" and then wire some other tweeters to function as highs/ultra-tweeter. I'm not crystal clear on the internals, but the tweeters and the tweeter array is where the additional "way" beyond the driver count is happening.

Make sense?
 
Dec 13, 2017 at 9:17 PM Post #62 of 144

Music Alchemist

Pokémon trainer of headphones
Joined
Dec 17, 2013
Posts
20,092
Likes
2,153
Read mine. The "ways" has nothing to do with the number of types of drivers, it has to do with the wiring of the crossover(s). You can wire 1 type of driver an infinite number of ways to achieve whatever goal you/the design is shooting for.

Here, it is true. The Tekton DI and Ulfbhert lines wire a collection of tweeters to function as a mid "driver" and then wire some other tweeters to function as highs/ultra-tweeter. I'm not crystal clear on the internals, but the tweeters and the tweeter array is where the additional "way" beyond the driver count is happening.

Make sense?

It makes sense now. It's just that the way you listed them seemed like a rule rather than examples.

I guess I will eventually ask Eric which high frequency drivers are wired to do what, since they look the same.
 
Dec 13, 2017 at 9:30 PM Post #63 of 144

Benny-x

1000+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 6, 2010
Posts
1,272
Likes
316
Location
Canada/China
I did say "ultra simplified" and "feel free to add more"...

Actually, Eric already has the idea of the info on his website, it's what you see as "design defect" or whatever about all other speakers being inadequate until now. His whole patent thing.

If you read the extremely long Double Impact thread on Audiogon, it has more real specifics about the tweeter array being wired (via the crossover) to function as a distributed mass mid-driver.

I've called Eric before, and emailed, and I would wager that the Audiogon thread is be more informative and direct than a call to Eric. The thread includes owners, reviewers, and speaker designers, so there's a lot of great stuff there.
 
Dec 13, 2017 at 9:39 PM Post #64 of 144

Music Alchemist

Pokémon trainer of headphones
Joined
Dec 17, 2013
Posts
20,092
Likes
2,153
Actually, Eric already has the idea of the info on his website, it's what you see as "design defect" or whatever about all other speakers being inadequate until now. His whole patent thing.

I've read the pages there about the technology...but it seems to be far more complex than the topic we are discussing here. The main points, as I interpret it, are related to how the moving mass of most speakers is too high, and that sound travels too quickly through conventional metal materials compared to how quickly it moves through air. It seems to imply that his technology gives you the proper moving mass and speed that would be closer to the sound coming from the original instruments. But there isn't much information provided to go on, so I dunno...

If you read the extremely long Double Impact thread on Audiogon, it has more real specifics about the tweeter array being wired (via the crossover) to function as a distributed mass mid-driver.

If it's 4-way, wouldn't that high frequency array have some of them assigned to handle the mids and the rest assigned to treble? (The way you worded it makes it seem like it's just mids.)

I've called Eric before, and emailed, and I would wager that the Audiogon thread is be more informative and direct than a call to Eric. The thread includes owners, reviewers, and speaker designers, so there's a lot of great stuff there.

I've read some of the threads on other sites, but they're quite long, so I've just scratched the surface.
 
Last edited:
Dec 13, 2017 at 9:46 PM Post #65 of 144

Benny-x

1000+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 6, 2010
Posts
1,272
Likes
316
Location
Canada/China
It's exactly as you said, some of the tweeters function as highs/super-highs, some as mids.

In my understanding, which is only gathered, not fact, the tweeters that form the perimeter of the circle/hexagon are the mid drivers and the centre tweeters are the highs.
 
Dec 14, 2017 at 6:59 AM Post #66 of 144

Canadian411

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Jan 24, 2011
Posts
1,871
Likes
86
First impressions for the PMD Studio Monitor from pro audio engineers are out!

http://www.tektondesign.com/uploads/9/8/4/7/98478018/pmd_monitor.pdf

My current plan is to start with that one since it seems like the ideal compact speaker for me that could be used in just about any room.

It has the same high frequency domes as the Ulfberht, but only three instead of fifteen.

The Ulfberht would hopefully be my endgame (I'm crossing my fingers that it actually is the best speaker ever made like the designer claims, so I wouldn't need to spend significantly more to get the best), but would have to come later when I could easily afford it and have a suitably large listening room in a more secluded house where neighbors wouldn't hear my music.

pmd-studomonitor-low_orig.jpg


185691693.jpg
Beautiful color !
 
Dec 14, 2017 at 2:51 PM Post #67 of 144

Music Alchemist

Pokémon trainer of headphones
Joined
Dec 17, 2013
Posts
20,092
Likes
2,153
Another thing I'm wondering about is the "pulps and textiles" in the drivers that Eric talks about, especially since most of them seem to be sourced from other manufacturers.

Specs looks fantastic but I am really not sold on the look of these speakers.
Beautiful color !

So you don't like the look but you like the color? :smile_cat:

Personally, I like the Tekton look. I tend to favor black myself, but that blue is certainly eye-catching.

Given Tekton's stellar reputation of outperforming speakers many times the price, I'd much rather have that basic box shape than, say, a seashell design that costs $60K.

Fun fact: Those two models only have black, white, red, and grey as the default options on the website. If you wanted other colors, you'd have to call and arrange them, potentially paying extra.

The Ulfberht (along with most of the other models) has a soft gloss finish whereas the PMD Studio Monitor has high gloss.
 
Last edited:
Dec 19, 2017 at 6:39 AM Post #68 of 144

Canadian411

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Jan 24, 2011
Posts
1,871
Likes
86
Another thing I'm wondering about is the "pulps and textiles" in the drivers that Eric talks about, especially since most of them seem to be sourced from other manufacturers.




So you don't like the look but you like the color? :smile_cat:

Personally, I like the Tekton look. I tend to favor black myself, but that blue is certainly eye-catching.

Given Tekton's stellar reputation of outperforming speakers many times the price, I'd much rather have that basic box shape than, say, a seashell design that costs $60K.

Fun fact: Those two models only have black, white, red, and grey as the default options on the website. If you wanted other colors, you'd have to call and arrange them, potentially paying extra.

The Ulfberht (along with most of the other models) has a soft gloss finish whereas the PMD Studio Monitor has high gloss.

Ya very confusing uh ? haha, I love that blue color, it's eye catching indeed. :)
I might order the PMD monitors and if I like I will go with the full tower.
 
Dec 21, 2017 at 12:05 PM Post #70 of 144

Canadian411

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Jan 24, 2011
Posts
1,871
Likes
86
Oh, you mean the $12K Ulfberht? (Rather than, for example, the $3K Double Impact.)

I mean, PMD monitor for $2k but I am not sure if I will spend $12k on Tekton company, debating to get Sonus Faber Olympica III or Focal Sopra No 2.
 
Dec 21, 2017 at 12:09 PM Post #71 of 144

Music Alchemist

Pokémon trainer of headphones
Joined
Dec 17, 2013
Posts
20,092
Likes
2,153
I mean, PMD monitor for $2k but I am not sure if I will spend $12k on Tekton company, debating to get Sonus Faber Olympica III or Focal Sopra No 2.

I was just curious what you meant by "the full tower" since that seemed to imply buying Tekton floorstanding speakers.

If you haven't read this, you may want to. It says the Ulfberht is on the same level as the $58K Magico S7 and so on. That Focal is also mentioned.

https://hometheaterreview.com/tekton-design-ulfberht-floorstanding-speaker-reviewed/?page=2
 
Dec 21, 2017 at 7:02 PM Post #72 of 144

Blueshound24

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Oct 11, 2013
Posts
1,703
Likes
912
Location
Mt Rushmore State
I mean, PMD monitor for $2k but I am not sure if I will spend $12k on Tekton company, debating to get Sonus Faber Olympica III or Focal Sopra No 2.

I am very curious/interested in those PMD as well. If they are half as good as all the hype I may replace my LS50 for my nearfield setup.
 
Dec 21, 2017 at 7:11 PM Post #73 of 144

Music Alchemist

Pokémon trainer of headphones
Joined
Dec 17, 2013
Posts
20,092
Likes
2,153
I am very curious/interested in those PMD as well. If they are half as good as all the hype I may replace my LS50 for my nearfield setup.

I'd love to see more impressions for them even though I've already decided I want them.

If anyone has ideas for the best speaker stands, share away!

...Pretty bummed out I didn't know about Tekton earlier this year, 'cause I blew through over $5K on other things and have to work my way up again before I can buy them...
 
Dec 21, 2017 at 7:50 PM Post #74 of 144

Blueshound24

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Oct 11, 2013
Posts
1,703
Likes
912
Location
Mt Rushmore State
I'd love to see more impressions for them even though I've already decided I want them.

If anyone has ideas for the best speaker stands, share away!



...Pretty bummed out I didn't know about Tekton earlier this year, 'cause I blew through over $5K on other things and have to work my way up again before I can buy them...


I use the IsoAcoustic stands for my desktop and they are very well regarded.
 
Dec 21, 2017 at 7:56 PM Post #75 of 144

Music Alchemist

Pokémon trainer of headphones
Joined
Dec 17, 2013
Posts
20,092
Likes
2,153
I use the IsoAcoustic stands for my desktop and they are very well regarded.

Oh, I meant full-size professional-grade stands.

By the way, the PMD Studio Monitor is 21.5" tall. Not exactly something I'd put on a desktop.

But I've used full-room positions either way, with full-size stands, both of which significantly improve the sound. (My old monitors were placed roughly the same distance away as my current towers.)

speakersizes_17_orig.jpg


dsc07743_orig.jpg
 
Last edited:

Users who are viewing this thread

Top