I haven't watched the video yet, but I am not sure I would agree with them on the wider soundstage note. Sonic improvement, yes.Now confused, multiple owners called out smaller soundstage on AZ100, while this reviewer claims "huge" sonic improvement along with wider soundstage.![]()
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Technics EAH-AZ100 - Reviews & Impressions
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galaxygrrl
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Pi8 earbuds support aptX Lossless. I love my iPhone, so I don't know much.thSounds like stuff likes to break on you.
Pi8s do not support LDAC, correct?
Well, the Pi8's were bad from the moment I get them, One earbud drops the sound every other day. The AZ 80s have broken on me a few times, and even my Dad. I did put them through the Washer, though.
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... but did you tumble dry? you must...
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Ha! No, I sent them in under warranty. They replaced them.... but did you tumble dry? you must...
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I thought Az80 were a lot better tuned than pi8s I don't understand why they are so highly praised, another average, clogged headphone by b&w which clearly need better ears imho.
Az80 is clear and wide open sounding with crisp precise bass, az100 will be better, I'm getting it in couple of days
Az80 is clear and wide open sounding with crisp precise bass, az100 will be better, I'm getting it in couple of days
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What type of drivers use Ferrofluid (magnetic fluid)? The answer is tweeters. The ferrofluid is used to dampen the dome and increase magnetic flux density somewhat.... This works well but only if the dome excursion is not large... which is not the case with earbuds because the membrane actually needs to move a fair bit at low frequency. Another reason not to use ferrofluid is to allow fast transient responses. So, I expect AZ100 to be nicely rounded but boring without the capability to correctly portray deep (and especially fast ) low frequencies. The stereo imaging will suffer as well, because the stereo imaging depends a lot on transient response.
Ferrofluid can also age... it may become stiff... and it has to be replaced.
Ferrofluid can also age... it may become stiff... and it has to be replaced.
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Total nonsense, sorryWhat type of drivers use Ferrofluid (magnetic fluid)? The answer is tweeters. The ferrofluid is used to dampen the dome and increase magnetic flux density somewhat.... This works well but only if the dome excursion is not large... which is not the case with earbuds because the membrane actually needs to move a fair bit at low frequency. Another reason not to use ferrofluid is to allow fast transient responses. So, I expect AZ100 to be nicely rounded but boring without the capability to correctly portray deep (and especially fast ) low frequencies. The stereo imaging will suffer as well, because the stereo imaging depends a lot on transient response.
Ferrofluid can also age... it may become stiff... and it has to be replaced.
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Aha, sure..
Anyone who has ever used ferrofluid knows about the issues I mentioned. Replacing the aged/stiff, evaporated magnetic fluid is messy and a health hazard. Using them in earbuds is crazy stuff. Unbelievable.
The AZ80s are great earbuds... the magnetic fluid thing is marketing crap for ill-informed, inexperienced, placid.
Anyone who has ever used ferrofluid knows about the issues I mentioned. Replacing the aged/stiff, evaporated magnetic fluid is messy and a health hazard. Using them in earbuds is crazy stuff. Unbelievable.
The AZ80s are great earbuds... the magnetic fluid thing is marketing crap for ill-informed, inexperienced, placid.
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Sorry I didn't mean to be disrespectful, the science is all fine, all I'm saying is what you described as sound character isn't what I hearAha, sure..
Anyone who has ever used ferrofluid knows about the issues I mentioned. Replacing the aged/stiff, evaporated magnetic fluid is messy and a health hazard. Using them in earbuds is crazy stuff. Unbelievable.
The AZ80s are great earbuds... the magnetic fluid thing is marketing crap for ill-informed, inexperienced, placid.
First I want to state that I recently had my hearing checked and besides a tiny dip in the 1k on my left ear my hearing is perfect.
I like the smaller size the better ANC the smaller case fits in my pocket much better than the AZ80 case.
I've figured out why I don't like these Technics AZ100 headphones. They've specifically engineered the drivers with ferrofluid surrounding the edges to eliminate harmonics, which they claim interfere with the sound. This results in an incredibly smooth sound signature, devoid of any imperfections.
However, I prefer the imperfections that give music its character and realism. This overly smooth sound feels artificial, not in an electronic way, but in an analog sense. It lacks the subtle nuances and "grit" that I find engaging.
Music, by its very nature, is imperfect. People and instruments have unique characteristics that contribute to the overall sound. The AZ100s artificially smooth out these nuances, making the music sound sterile and lifeless.
When I listen to my go-to music (Disturbs the Sound of Silence, Blitzen Trappers Furr, Blue October X amount of words, Neil Young Live at Massey Hall, BT, VNV Nation), I'm not drawn into the music; instead, I'm hyper-aware of what's missing. The soul of the music seems to be gone.
While the AZ100s undoubtedly deliver a technically perfect sound, they've sacrificed the artistic expression of the music. I hope other audiophiles share my sentiment, and Technics considers removing the ferrofluid in future iterations.
Personally, I'll be purchasing a few spare pairs of the AZ80s and returning these. They have many excellent features, but the sound quality simply doesn't suit my preferences.
I like the smaller size the better ANC the smaller case fits in my pocket much better than the AZ80 case.
I've figured out why I don't like these Technics AZ100 headphones. They've specifically engineered the drivers with ferrofluid surrounding the edges to eliminate harmonics, which they claim interfere with the sound. This results in an incredibly smooth sound signature, devoid of any imperfections.
However, I prefer the imperfections that give music its character and realism. This overly smooth sound feels artificial, not in an electronic way, but in an analog sense. It lacks the subtle nuances and "grit" that I find engaging.
Music, by its very nature, is imperfect. People and instruments have unique characteristics that contribute to the overall sound. The AZ100s artificially smooth out these nuances, making the music sound sterile and lifeless.
When I listen to my go-to music (Disturbs the Sound of Silence, Blitzen Trappers Furr, Blue October X amount of words, Neil Young Live at Massey Hall, BT, VNV Nation), I'm not drawn into the music; instead, I'm hyper-aware of what's missing. The soul of the music seems to be gone.
While the AZ100s undoubtedly deliver a technically perfect sound, they've sacrificed the artistic expression of the music. I hope other audiophiles share my sentiment, and Technics considers removing the ferrofluid in future iterations.
Personally, I'll be purchasing a few spare pairs of the AZ80s and returning these. They have many excellent features, but the sound quality simply doesn't suit my preferences.
It's a much smaller sound stage I don't know what the guy in the video is talking about.Now confused, multiple owners called out smaller soundstage on AZ100, while this reviewer claims "huge" sonic improvement along with wider soundstage.![]()
Having tested the AZ100 I agree with ExtremeBoky.Total nonsense, sorry
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Well, I did not have to listen to a ferrofluid AZ100 transducer to know that, but you summed it up perfectly. That is exactly what I learned from many decades of working with Dynaudio tweeters. Many people preferred the sound of those tweeters once the ferrofluid was removed. Their comments were identical to yours.
Anyway, AZ100 may be okay for iPhone users (no LDAC support).... so all good. They should have their target audience.
Anyway, AZ100 may be okay for iPhone users (no LDAC support).... so all good. They should have their target audience.
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Are you in this thread as you potentially are a buyer (does not seem so) or just to trash them?
They AZ100 does not have a tweeter, it is a single 10mm driver with this newer liquid tech and if it has a shelf life it will be less than the batteries same as any TWS so no worries but is a worry for those that bought their £1300+ Wired IEM's (sarcasms).
They AZ100 does not have a tweeter, it is a single 10mm driver with this newer liquid tech and if it has a shelf life it will be less than the batteries same as any TWS so no worries but is a worry for those that bought their £1300+ Wired IEM's (sarcasms).
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Someone please correct me if wrong, but from what I've read the az100s have ferrofluid only around the edges of the driver, not the driver itself. Sort of like the rubber propulsive bit surrounding a woofer speaker, not the cone itself. Meanwhile, same tech is used in their expensive iems. Does that alter your opinion?Aha, sure..
Anyone who has ever used ferrofluid knows about the issues I mentioned. Replacing the aged/stiff, evaporated magnetic fluid is messy and a health hazard. Using them in earbuds is crazy stuff. Unbelievable.
The AZ80s are great earbuds... the magnetic fluid thing is marketing crap for ill-informed, inexperienced, placid.
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