Tastes in Music

Jul 9, 2005 at 4:53 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 69

drarthurwells

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Music appreciation is a matter of interpreting a non-verbal language that communicates to perceptual-emotional processes in the brain.

The basis of all intellectual processing is perceptual, not conceptual. Perceptual processing is in terms of non-symbolized thought and involves temporal and spatial integration of particles (things) in space over time (material existence). The material universe is discrete and not continuous - continuity, as say in movement of particles, is an illusion. However, the non-material universe is continuous, outside of space and time, as a quantum wave function in supposition of simultaneously existing potentials, but the wave function collapse produces material phenomena in the world as we know it (however illusionary it really is).

The universe runs on information that is coded in pulses or vibrations (waves) which can regulate energy to manifest as matter. God is the quantum computation of these pulses.

The language of pulses is a phase code, embedded in waves (materially in amplitude and frequency functions). Music is kin to this language. You could say in music we communicate with aspects of the universe, or God. This is a different reality than that of our everyday sensory experience of the material world.

In appreciating music you are understanding its phase code of different sounds, at different frequencies and tempos, with varying loudness levels.

The complexity of music presents intellectual demands on perceptual functioning. When these demands are unmet, you will be unable to appreciate the music. Much classical music is actually not so demanding but much can be very demanding. This is true also of non-classical music - Mike Oldfield's Hergest Ridge, or his Amarok, presents intellectual demands that exceeds much classical music.

However, it is not just enough to intellectually master the music you hear. Its coded language has to resonate with your emotional center (that is responsible both for your motivations and your feelings). This can vary from one person to another just like our individual motivations and needs vary - some of us are liberals and some conservative and most are mixed, etc. Shostakovitch and Prokofiev may resonate with one person while Bach and Mozart with another.

You must find your best fit in music, both intellectually and emotionally, while also seeking to grow and develop your tastes. Doesn't mean you can't return to and enjoy your earlier favorites, just mean you want to also expand your ability to to understand the language of the universe.

At a God level of the universe, reality is a vast and ever changing symphony of sub-quantum vibrations - the computational basis of materialization.
 
Jul 9, 2005 at 5:01 PM Post #2 of 69
So which taste do you prefer, vanilla, chocolate or strawberry? I'm a chocolate bunny myself.
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Jul 9, 2005 at 5:12 PM Post #3 of 69
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Holy cr*p... I don't have to work that hard to read stuff at work...
 
Jul 9, 2005 at 5:25 PM Post #4 of 69
Yes, of course. If I understood that, I am sure it would make perfect sense. Interesting post, seriously. Not sure how much I agree with, but it's still a valid hypothesis.
 
Jul 9, 2005 at 5:30 PM Post #5 of 69
All I can say is,...
wow...
Very, very interesting. Sadly, though, it won't end the "my genre is better is than yours" flame wars.
 
Jul 9, 2005 at 5:33 PM Post #6 of 69
It is an interesting post. Why it's interesting is another matter entirely.

I am not sure what point our initial poster was trying to make, but I can assure him that he failed to do so clearly.
 
Jul 9, 2005 at 5:35 PM Post #7 of 69
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Originally Posted by Julz
aw, c'mon, be nice...


I'm as nice as I can be, even while listening to Layla Unplugged!
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Jul 9, 2005 at 5:37 PM Post #8 of 69
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Originally Posted by PSmith08
It is an interesting post. Why it's interesting is another matter entirely.

I am not sure what point our initial poster was trying to make, but I can assure him that he failed to do so clearly.



Seconded. I did, however, enjoy reading paragraphs 7 and the parts of paragraph 4 that I actually understood.
OK, its time to move along now that I've taken the time to count paragraphs...
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Jul 9, 2005 at 5:41 PM Post #10 of 69
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Originally Posted by PSmith08
I am not sure what point our initial poster was trying to make


I think it's that ...uhmm... god is vibrational matter that controls the perceptual functioning energy of classical music...
 
Jul 9, 2005 at 5:44 PM Post #11 of 69
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Originally Posted by drarthurwells
You guys should look into quantum physics and psychology.


To be fair, I think that quantum physics made be just a little over most of our heads... I think most of what you say can be more accurately explained with String Theory.. just my opinion..
 
Jul 9, 2005 at 6:05 PM Post #12 of 69
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Originally Posted by drarthurwells
You guys should look into quantum physics and psychology.


There's too much uncertainty in the world for me to want to find it in my music. Btw, you still haven't told us which flavor you prefer. Seems like someone is dodging the bullet.
 
Jul 9, 2005 at 6:22 PM Post #13 of 69
Couple of questions since I didn't fully understand your post:

You say that the non-material universe consists of quantum waves and is placed outside the realms of space and time. Being a real laymen I thought waves in quantum physics provide you with information in regards to its probability at a certain position. Also, if you look at the Schrödinger equation, space and time are actually involved, so I'm a bit confused here.

Further, you say that music is a manifestation of this non-discrete but continous world but I thought sound is nothing more than air particles moving back and forth, which is quite discrete in my opinion. However, for the time being, let's say it's non-discrete since it does behave as a wave. Now if you say that by listening to music, we can communicate with the universe (let's not use God due to forum rules), then how are sound waves different from let's say electromagnetic waves which we encounter everyday, that is light, which I'd personally categorize under "everyday sensory experience of the material world".

Moreover, can't everything be considered a wave according to the wave-particle dualism? Electrons for instance, quite discrete creatures, behave as waves under certain circumstances as you probably know. Going one step further, as you know, everything can be considered a wave and you can attribute a DeBroglie wavelength to any matter.
So my problem is that I fail to see the distinct difference between music and other sorts of waves. Or is there a difference between music and normal sound waves?

Thanks.

Edit: Btw, perhaps we could refrain from referring to 'God' or I fear this thread might get locked pretty soon.
 
Jul 9, 2005 at 6:26 PM Post #14 of 69
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Originally Posted by drarthurwells
Music appreciation is a matter of interpreting a non-verbal language that communicates to perceptual-emotional processes in the ........ of sub-quantum vibrations - the computational basis of materialization.


You have an extraordinary gift for pointing out the obvious. Now tell me: What's your feeling on the new Coke Zero?
 
Jul 9, 2005 at 6:44 PM Post #15 of 69
I love how saint.panda starts with "being a real layman", then "lays" this on us..

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Originally Posted by saint.panda
Moreover, can't everything be considered a wave according to the wave-particle dualism? Electrons for instance, quite discrete creatures, behave as waves under certain circumstances as you probably know. Going one step further, as you know, everything can be considered a wave and you can attribute a DeBroglie wavelength to any matter.


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